Hi Jan,

The driver is open source.
https://github.com/SVoxel/R9000/tree/master/git_home/linux.git/drivers/crypto/al.
I'm newbie to crypto stuff. Not sure if there is any HW limitation for this
engine to support GCM. If only need to modify the code, maybe there is
chance that someone will implement this.


>
>
> ------------------ 原始邮件 ------------------
> *发件人:* "Jan Just Keijser" <janj...@nikhef.nl>;
> *发送时间:* 2020年12月4日(星期五) 晚上6:19
> *收件人:* "Tony He"<huangy...@gmail.com>;
> *抄送:* "lev"<l...@openvpn.net>;"Antonio Quartulli"<a...@unstable.cc
> >;"openvpn-devel"<openvpn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>;
> *主题:* Re: [Openvpn-devel] [ovpn-dco] Is cbc-hmac supported?
>
> hi Tony,
>
> On 04/12/20 11:12, Tony He wrote:
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> >what HW engine is this?  I think your best bet is to actually get the
> engine to support GCM; with AES and SHA acceleration in place there is very
> little to stop the HW engine from not being able to support GCM..
> The HW engine is a part of SoC al314. It connects with A15 CPU via PCI in
> SoC. Chip vendor will not support GCM due to all kinds of reasons.
>
> ah pity, and the source code to this HW engine is closed source?
>
> >the numbers do suggest some form of cryptodev acceleration - can you
> unload the cryptodev module or block access to it (e.g. chmod 000
> /dev/crypto) ?
> In my second set of test numbers, I uploaded the cryptodev moduled. You
> can see the CCM performance is almost same.
>
> actually, I see the same on my i5-6800 with OpenSSL 1.0.2m but NOT with
> OpenSSL 1.1.1g; this leads me to believe that CCM support in the openssl
> 1.0.x speed command is screwed up.   It will be worthwhile to build openssl
> 1.1.1 for the AL314 just to see if aes-128-ccm is a viable option or not.
>
> JJK
>
> Jan Just Keijser <janj...@nikhef.nl> 于2020年12月4日周五 下午5:49写道:
>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> On 04/12/20 08:41, Tony He wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>> Yeah, need option " -elapsed" because OpenSSL counts user time instead of
>> total time(user+sys time) without this option. You can see:
>> * aes-128-cbc and sha1 are accelerated by HW engine. I believe speed is
>> faster for openvpn dco module because it uses the HW engine in kernel space
>> and bypasses the path between openssl and cryptodev.
>>
>> that is correct the openvpn dco module sits in kernel space and does need
>> to pass the userspace<->kernelspace barrier and thus should have better
>> performance
>>
>> * aes-128-gcm is NOT accelerated by HW engine.
>>
>> what HW engine is this?  I think your best bet is to actually get the
>> engine to support GCM; with AES and SHA acceleration in place there is very
>> little to stop the HW engine from not being able to support GCM...
>>
>> * aes-128-ccm is NOT accelerated by HW engine but it seems that it is
>> accelerated by HW instruction or other. I don't know my device has such
>> function. SoC type is al314.
>>
>> the numbers do suggest some form of cryptodev acceleration - can you
>> unload the cryptodev module or block access to it (e.g. chmod 000
>> /dev/crypto) ?
>>
>> The AL314 is a quad core Cortex A15 CPU @ 1.7 GHz ; the numbers *without*
>> cryptodev look about right for that particular CPU.
>>
>> Most modern crypto packages use AES-GCM or chacha20-poly1305 as they are
>> considered more secure. CBC is considered a bit outdated and as far as I
>> know no openvpn release supports CCM thus far (which is a shame, really).
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> JJK
>>
>>
>>
>> With cryptodev: # openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -elapsed You have chosen
>> to measure elapsed time instead of user CPU time. Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s
>> on 16 size blocks: 252783 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s
>> on 64 size blocks: 253044 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s
>> on 256 size blocks: 251746 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s
>> on 1024 size blocks: 190306 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s
>> on 8192 size blocks: 122657 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s ......................
>> type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-cbc 1348.18k
>> 5398.27k 21482.33k 64957.78k 334935.38k # openssl speed -evp aes-128-gcm
>> -elapsed You have chosen to measure elapsed time instead of user CPU time.
>> Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 16 size blocks: 3509485 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s
>> Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 64 size blocks: 900678 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s
>> Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 256 size blocks: 228961 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s
>> Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 57475 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s
>> Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 7189 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s
>> .................. type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes
>> aes-128-gcm 18717.25k 19214.46k 19538.01k 19618.13k 19630.76k
>> # openssl speed -evp aes-128-ccm -elapsed You have chosen to measure
>> elapsed time instead of user CPU time. Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s on 16 size
>> blocks: 10179383 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s on 64 size
>> blocks: 10179215 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s on 256
>> size blocks: 10179785 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s on
>> 1024 size blocks: 10182095 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s
>> on 8192 size blocks: 10179225 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s ..................
>> type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-ccm
>> 54290.04k 217156.59k 868674.99k 3475488.43k 27796070.40k # openssl speed
>> -evp sha1 -elapsed You have chosen to measure elapsed time instead of user
>> CPU time. Doing sha1 for 3s on 16 size blocks: 95252 sha1's in 3.00s Doing
>> sha1 for 3s on 64 size blocks: 95166 sha1's in 3.00s Doing sha1 for 3s on
>> 256 size blocks: 76177 sha1's in 3.00s Doing sha1 for 3s on 1024 size
>> blocks: 68799 sha1's in 3.00s Doing sha1 for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 53034
>> sha1's in 3.00s ................. type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024
>> bytes 8192 bytes sha1 508.01k 2030.21k 6500.44k 23483.39k 144818.18k
>> Without cryptodev:
>> # openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -elapsed You have chosen to measure
>> elapsed time instead of user CPU time. Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size
>> blocks: 9235207 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size
>> blocks: 2498066 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size
>> blocks: 645288 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size
>> blocks: 161372 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size
>> blocks: 20385 aes-128-cbc's in 3.00s ................ type 16 bytes 64
>> bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-cbc 49254.44k 53292.07k
>> 55064.58k 55081.64k 55664.64k
>> # openssl speed -evp aes-128-gcm -elapsed You have chosen to measure
>> elapsed time instead of user CPU time. Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 16 size
>> blocks: 3507422 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 64 size
>> blocks: 901036 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 256 size
>> blocks: 228857 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 1024 size
>> blocks: 57411 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-gcm for 3s on 8192 size
>> blocks: 7188 aes-128-gcm's in 3.00s ................ type 16 bytes 64 bytes
>> 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-gcm 18706.25k 19222.10k 19529.13k
>> 19596.29k 19628.03k
>> # openssl speed -evp aes-128-ccm -elapsed You have chosen to measure
>> elapsed time instead of user CPU time. Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s on 16 size
>> blocks: 10170897 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s on 64 size
>> blocks: 10167692 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s on 256
>> size blocks: 10166117 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s on
>> 1024 size blocks: 10167095 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s Doing aes-128-ccm for 3s
>> on 8192 size blocks: 10172046 aes-128-ccm's in 3.00s ................. type
>> 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-ccm 54244.78k
>> 216910.76k 867508.65k 3470368.43k 27776466.94k
>> openssl speed -evp sha1 -elapsed You have chosen to measure elapsed time
>> instead of user CPU time. Doing sha1 for 3s on 16 size blocks: 1877571
>> sha1's in 3.00s Doing sha1 for 3s on 64 size blocks: 1250523 sha1's in
>> 3.00s Doing sha1 for 3s on 256 size blocks: 603090 sha1's in 3.00s Doing
>> sha1 for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 198963 sha1's in 3.00s Doing sha1 for 3s
>> on 8192 size blocks: 27380 sha1's in 3.00s ............... type 16 bytes 64
>> bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes sha1 10013.71k 26677.82k 51463.68k
>> 67912.70k 74765.65k
>> Tony
>>
>> Jan Just Keijser <janj...@nikhef.nl> 于2020年12月2日周三 下午11:24写道:
>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> On 02/12/20 15:51, Jan Just Keijser wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/12/20 15:22, Tony He wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jan,
>>>
>>> Welcome to join the discussion.
>>>
>>> >the second set of numbers doesn't make sense, and a much better test is
>>> to do an actual encryption test
>>> I don't compile cryptodev kernel module for my PC and can not reproduce
>>> this issue for now.  You don't understand  the reason why the performance
>>> is much worse with cryptodev module for *big* blocks, right?
>>> If yes, I guess the reason maybe kernel assign the work to multi cores
>>> while OpenSSL uses one core. Would you share the output of command "mpstat
>>> -P ALL 2"?
>>>
>>> sure, while using the cryptodev I see this:
>>>
>>> 15:28:36     CPU    %usr   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft
>>> %steal  %guest  %gnice   %idle
>>> 15:28:38     all    1.87    0.00   23.19    0.12    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00   74.81
>>> 15:28:38       0    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.50    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00   99.50
>>> 15:28:38       1    7.00    0.00   93.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 15:28:38       2    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00  100.00
>>> 15:28:38       3    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00  100.00
>>>
>>> 15:28:38     CPU    %usr   %nice    %sys %iowait    %irq   %soft
>>> %steal  %guest  %gnice   %idle
>>> 15:28:40     all    0.75    0.00   24.19    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00   75.06
>>> 15:28:40       0    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.50    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00   99.50
>>> 15:28:40       1    3.50    0.00   96.50    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 15:28:40       2    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00  100.00
>>> 15:28:40       3    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
>>> 0.00    0.00    0.00  100.00
>>>
>>> on a 4 core box; this means that 1 core is used 100% (which is what I
>>> expected).
>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect the main reason the cryptodev results on my i5-6800 go off the
>>> rails is due to this:
>>> (look at the "Doing aes-128-cbc lines")
>>>
>>> $ ./openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 2835368 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 1.14s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 2720745 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 1.01s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 2377830 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> *0.74s*
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 1538693 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> *0.40s*
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 370202 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> *0.11s*
>>> OpenSSL 1.0.2m  2 Nov 2017
>>> built on: reproducible build, date unspecified
>>> options:bn(64,64) rc4(16x,int) des(idx,cisc,16,int) aes(partial)
>>> idea(int) blowfish(idx)
>>> compiler: gcc -I. -I.. -I../include  -DOPENSSL_THREADS -D_REENTRANT
>>> -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -DHAVE_CRYPTODEV -DUSE_CRYPTODEV_DIGESTS
>>> -Wa,--noexecstack -m64 -DL_ENDIAN -O3 -Wall -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2
>>> -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT5 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m
>>> -DRC4_ASM -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DAES_ASM
>>> -DVPAES_ASM -DBSAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DGHASH_ASM -DECP_NISTZ256_ASM
>>> The 'numbers' are in 1000s of bytes per second processed.
>>> type             16 bytes     64 bytes    256 bytes   1024 bytes   8192
>>> bytes
>>> aes-128-cbc      39794.64k   172403.64k   822600.65k  3939054.08k
>>> 27569952.58k
>>>
>>>
>>> The timing for how quickly the results are returned are way off and
>>> probably just wrong. The Openssl speed test is supposed to run for 3
>>> seconds. The actual results returned for 8192 byte blocks is
>>>
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 370202 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> *0.11s*
>>>
>>> whereas without cryptodev I see
>>>
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 457255 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> *3.00s*
>>>
>>> So you can see that without cryptodev the i5-6800 actually says it's
>>> doing more blocks (457,255 vs 370,202) but with cryptodev it is doing it in
>>> WAY less time.  This leads me to believe the openssl speed code when using
>>> cryptodev just "goes wrong".
>>> It will be very interesting to see what the encryption test will bring -
>>> that is a much better real-life-like example than a simple speed test.
>>>
>>> as a follow-up : someone whispered in my ear (thanks, André ;) ) that
>>> one should use the -elapsed option for this, so here are new results:
>>>
>>> *with* cryptodev:
>>>
>>> ./openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -elapsed
>>> You have chosen to measure elapsed time instead of user CPU time.
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 2825786 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 2716822 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 2369723 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 1536054 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 369984 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> [...]
>>> aes-128-cbc      15,070.86k    57,958.87k   202,216.36k   524,306.43k
>>> 1,010,302.98k
>>>
>>> *without* cryptodev:
>>>
>>> $ openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc -elapsed
>>> You have chosen to measure elapsed time instead of user CPU time.
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 207188725 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 64 size blocks: 56855717 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 256 size blocks: 14382122 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 1024 size blocks: 3618996 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> Doing aes-128-cbc for 3s on 8192 size blocks: 456727 aes-128-cbc's in
>>> 3.00s
>>> [...]
>>> aes-128-cbc    1,105,006.53k  1,212,921.96k  1,227,274.41k
>>> 1,235,283.97k  1,247,169.19k
>>>
>>> which more or less reflects the encryption test results I posted earlier.
>>> The question becomes, what are you results when using the -elapsed flag?
>>>
>>> JJK
>>>
>>>
>>> >My advice is to rerun your tests *without* the cryptodev module and
>>> then decide wheter you really need CBC+CCM hmacs.
>>> Yes, I confirm that without the cryptodev the performance is very bad
>>> for my device. I don't have that device in my hand right now. But I saved
>>> one aes-256-cbc result in my web notebook as below:
>>>
>>> type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes
>>> aes-256-cbc 19626.95k 24289.71k 25054.46k 25347.75k 25337.86k
>>> Please note, there are two modes to accelerate encryption/decryption.
>>> 1. HW instructions like intel x86 CPU.
>>> 2. Using a crypto engine.
>>> When your device is 2 and its CPU is not powerful, normally with
>>> cryptodev speed is much faster at least for big blocks. Maybe for small
>>> blocks it's slower because
>>> it needs the time to push the work to kernel and then HW engine and the
>>> time spent is may longer than the time costed by OpenSSL directly does the
>>> encryption/decryption.
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> Jan Just Keijser <janj...@nikhef.nl> 于2020年12月2日周三 下午7:24写道:
>>>
>>>> hi Tony,
>>>>
>>>> On 01/12/20 02:50, Tony He wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Arne,
>>>>
>>>> openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc
>>>> type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-cbc
>>>> 20035.60k 123261.54k 267081.60k 1094764.09k 9181370.18k
>>>> openssl speed -evp aes-128-gcm
>>>> type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-gcm
>>>> 18738.76k 19284.91k 19524.44k 19606.87k 19685.46k
>>>> openssl speed -evp aes-128-ccm
>>>> type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes aes-128-ccm
>>>> 53859.07k 215581.12k 862070.02k 3460786.43k 27566347.61k
>>>> openssl speed -evp sha1
>>>> type 16 bytes 64 bytes 256 bytes 1024 bytes 8192 bytes sha1 3108.57k
>>>> 12177.79k 57325.18k 181610.34k 1207364.27k
>>>> openssl speed -evp chacha20-poly1305
>>>> chacha20-poly1305 is an unknown cipher or digest
>>>> Using old openssl, so chacha20-poly1305 is not supported.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> these numbers look suspiciously like you're using the linux cryptodev
>>>> module. Openssl speed results for the linux cryptodev module are totally
>>>> unreliable and I'd even go so far as to say that the *only* numbers I trust
>>>> in the output above are for aes-128-gcm
>>>>
>>>> For example, if I do the same on an i5-6800 I get *without* the
>>>> cryptodev module:
>>>>   $ openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc
>>>>   aes-128-cbc    1,104,599.38k  1,208,651.07k  1,231,766.70k
>>>> 1,237,545.64k  1,248,793.94k
>>>>
>>>> and with the module I get
>>>>   aes-128-cbc      45,087.41k   127,822.72k   581,517.17k
>>>> 2,256,593.19k 27,583,804.51k
>>>>
>>>> the second set of numbers doesn't make sense, and a much better test is
>>>> to do an actual encryption test, e.g.
>>>>
>>>> *without* the module
>>>> cat BIGFILE | openssl aes-256-cbc -e -pass  pass:thisisabadpassword |
>>>> pv > /dev/null
>>>> 2.93GB 0:00:05 [ 549MB/s] [
>>>> <=>
>>>> ]
>>>>
>>>> ('pv' aka 'pipeview' is a handy tool to measure the throughput of a
>>>> UNIX pipe)
>>>>
>>>> and with the module:
>>>> cat BIGFILE | ./openssl aes-256-cbc -e -pass  pass:thisisabadpassword
>>>> -engine cryptodev|  pv > /dev/null
>>>> engine "cryptodev" set.
>>>> 2.93GB 0:00:07 [ 426MB/s] [              <=>
>>>>
>>>> so you see that using the cryptodev module actually slows things down -
>>>> which is to be expected, as the application needs to do more work using the
>>>> cryptodev module.
>>>>
>>>> My advice is to rerun your tests *without* the cryptodev module and
>>>> then decide wheter you really need CBC+CCM hmacs.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>> JJK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Arne Schwabe <a...@rfc2549.org> 于2020年11月26日周四 下午6:40写道:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 26.11.20 um 10:41 schrieb Tony He:
>>>>> > Hi Arne,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>Since the original thread was not on the mailing list I am missing
>>>>> your
>>>>> >>goal but if your crypto acelator already works with OpenSSL, then it
>>>>> >>will also work with the "normal" OpenVPN
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yes, it wokrs with "normal" OpenVPN(OpenVPN2), but according to the
>>>>> test
>>>>> > result, it's still not fast(about 60Mbps).
>>>>> > The bottleneck is not encryption operation any more. It comes from
>>>>> the
>>>>> > switch of user space and kernel space in the OpenVPN2,
>>>>> > which makes the poor CPU of  embedded device very busy. That's why we
>>>>> > need OpenVPN3 running in the kernel space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What numbers are we are talking in crypto speed? Could you provide from
>>>>> your "poor" device:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> openssl speed -evp aes-128-cbc
>>>>> openssl speed -evp aes-128-gcm
>>>>> openssl speed -evp aes-128-ccm
>>>>> openssl speed -evp sha1
>>>>> openssl speed -evp chacha20-poly1305
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to what difference/gain in terms of raw crypto speed we are
>>>>> talking here.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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