> On Wednesday, December 13th, 2023 at 12:13 AM, j.witvl...@mindef.nl 
> <j.witvl...@mindef.nl> wrote:

>> From: "Peter Davis via Openvpn-users" <openvpn-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, 12 December 2023 at 19:46:18
>> To: "Stella Ashburne" <rewe...@gmx.com>
>> Cc: "openvpn-users@lists.sourceforge.net" 
>> <openvpn-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Openvpn-users] Bypassing censorship devices
>>> On Tuesday, December 12th, 2023 at 5:03 PM, Stella Ashburne via 
>>> Openvpn-users <openvpn-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter
>>>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 2:03 PM
>>> > From: "Peter Davis via Openvpn-users" openvpn-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> > To: "Tincantech via Openvpn-users" openvpn-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> > Subject: [Openvpn-users] Bypassing censorship devices
>>> >
>>> > Hello,
>>> > How to use OpenVPN in a country that uses internet censorship devices to 
>>> > block VPN services? Is there a way to hide OpenVPN or make it look like a 
>>> > normal internet connection?
>>>
>>>
>>> You might like to surf to https://airvpn.org/, register an account for free 
>>> and ask for a free trial.
>>>
>>> Even if you aren't a subscriber of its services, you can still post your 
>>> questions in its various sub-forums (URL: https://airvpn.org/forums/)
>>>
>>> If you're unable to reach AirVPN using the above URL, you can use one of 
>>> the following:
>>>
>>> (1) airvpn.info
>>> (2) airvpn.eu
>>> (3) Onion address: 
>>> https://airvpn3epnw2fnsbx5x2ppzjs6vxtdarldas7wjyqvhscj7x43fxylqd.onion/
>>>
>>> The second VPN vendor that you might like to try is Mullvad which is based 
>>> in Sweden (also one of the "14 Eyes" alliance). If you use Mullvad's 
>>> proprietary app, you may wish to connect to its servers in Japan or the 
>>> USA. Again my friends in China have reported very good download speeds when 
>>> connecting to its servers in Japan and the USA.
>>>
>>> Note #1:
>>>
>>> You must use Tor Brower with onion addresses. (If you're in a country that 
>>> blocks Tor, you can make use of Tor Browser's built-in features such as 
>>> meek or snowflake to bypass host governments' censorship of Tor. Or simply 
>>> ask Tor Browser to give you a private bridge to allow you to access Tor. My 
>>> friends in China have no problems with using Tor Browser to access the 
>>> internet using meek, snowflake or private bridges.)
>>>
>>> Note #2:
>>>
>>> I am not an employee of AirVPN (one of the "14 Eyes" alliance.)
>>>
>>> Besides AirVPN, I have tried other VPN providers/vendors as have my friends 
>>> in China. They told me that AirVPN works best because you are able to use 
>>> OpenVPN over SSL or SSH (cf. 
>>> https://airvpn.org/forums/topic/9149-how-to-use-advanced-airvpn-services-and-features/
>>>  and read the sub-section in which it mentions OpenVPN over SSL or SSH.)
>>>
>>> Note #3:
>>>
>>> My friends in China are not ethnic Chinese but Caucasians and non-Chinese 
>>> nationals of Western countries.
>>>
>>> Note #4 (very important note)
>>>
>>> Using a VPN service provided by a VPN provider/vendor that isn't approved 
>>> by the Chinese government is illegal and if you're caught, you may face 
>>> severe punitive punishments, including jail time. So far no foreigner of a 
>>> Western country has been caught and punished for violating this Chinese law 
>>> as otherwise Reuters, AFP, etc. would have reported it.
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Stella
>>>
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>>
>> Hello,
>> Tor and all its modes like meek and snowflake are blocked, even bridges are 
>> blocked because you can easily find a list of bridges.
>> Is it possible to hide OpenVPN in something like ICMP, DNS or SSH?
>
> Yes, you can also tunnel OpenVPN inside openssh.
>
> However, port 22 is also often blocked in firewalls. Hence my suggestion for 
> https.
>
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Hello,
Thanks.
In these scenarios, does the user need another program besides OpenVPN Connect?
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