Hi John, on points 3 and 4, I find in my work (with small-medium sized companies) nobody cares. So in my experience, no BPEL, XPDL, BPMN, Visio etc. is even mentioned, so no problem. I suspect this is different for larger companies.
Regards, Peter On Jun 24, 3:47 am, John Mettraux <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Peter Dalmaris<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > However, I am not convinced yet that Ruote is the way to go. I would > > be very interested to hear relevant stories from the members of this > > group. Descriptions of production applications build with Ruote, > > successes and failures, arguments for or against this solution, words > > of wisdom etc. > > > I suppose any responses could be compiled into a Ruote "showcase". > > Hi Peter, > > thanks for your interest in ruote. > > You seem to need to build a dossier for your ruote pre-sales. > > A few links at first : > > http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-users/browse_frm/thread/faef... > http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-dev/browse_frm/thread/faef1a... > > This census was done 6 months ago. Since then at least two > organizations have started using ruote. > > Since I'm the founder of the project, let me draft a non-exhaustive > list of its bad points (exaggerations included) : > > 1) it's a project, not a product > 2) it's not adapted to the average ruby developer who truncate > workflow to "let's use a state machine" > 3) your boss will hate it, it's not "standard" (no BPEL, no XPDL) > 4) the domain experts will hate it, it doesn't [yet] import their visio > diagrams > 5) it's hard to scale (that's changing, but the initial 1 organization > wf engine use case is still present) > 6) you can't buy support > 7) you will have to acquire support anyway (be part of the community) > 8) it's moving from 0.9 to 2.0 > (http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote/tree/ruote2.0) that means > ruote-web2 will be upgrade to ruote2.0 very soon > 9) there is more documentation than the average project, but it's > never the right one > 10) there is no showcase and it's hard to get someone to compile it for free > 11) it's obscure and weird (maybe only "original") > > Now I hope others in the list will pop and add their bad points as well. > > If you are not convinced, don't use it. > > Best regards, > > -- > John Mettraux - http://jmettraux.wordpress.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ you received this message because you are subscribed to the "ruote users" group. to post : send email to [email protected] to unsubscribe : send email to [email protected] more options : http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
