On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Iván Martínez <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi John, and everybody,
>
> I'm Iván Martínez, and I'm working for UPM (Polytechnic University of
> Madrid), at DIT (Telematic Engineering Department) department. Two of my
> coleagues, Diego Moreno and Emilio García have already contributed to this
> group.

Hi Ivan,

yes, please say hi to Diego and Emilio !

> Some time ago Diego and some of you discussed about how useful would be to
> have a graphical editor to make process writing easier and more intuitive.
> I've been working on it for some time and now I'm glad to show you the very
> first results.
>
> (...)
>
> Before explaining any further, here you can give it a try (it's not 100%
> stable, sorry for that):
>
> http://jungla.dit.upm.es/~imartinez/wfEditor/

Very nice ! Excellent for a set of first steps.

I like the two way edition. Promising !

> I'm trying to use a generic and well prepared architecture to make it easy
> to grow, specially to allow people to add more "elements" to the ones
> already supported. My desire is to make everything open sourced, as a
> contribution to OpenWFE project.

Great ! You'd have to choose a license and then host it somewhere
(hint : http://github.com)

> At the moment, just a subset of "elements" (ruote expresions) are supported,
> and those are:
>
> - cursor
> - sequence
> - participant
> - set
> - if
> - loop
> - break
>
> I'm still working on it giving support to the expressions I found in this
> documentation. It would be great if you could tell me wich "elements" (ruote
> expressions) would you add, which ones are the most important and useful.

The latest version of the documentation lists a number of "basic expressions" :

  http://ruote.rubyforge.org/expressions.html

If you take a look at ruote-fluo :

  http://difference.openwfe.org:4567/defs
  http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-fluo

you'll see that it has a generic/default expression that covers all
the expressions that don't have their own rendering/editing component.

> Concluding, I would be grateful to receive your feedback about style,
> usability, and any other issue.

The current hottie in the web process designer space is Oryx :

  http://bpt.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/Oryx

I'd love something where there is no palette, very few buttons. So
that the user is only confronted with his diagram and not a huge
palette a la photoshop, he can focus.

Could you please use the name "ruote" ? It's starting to stick with
people (at least, there are more people googling for "ruote" than
"openwfe"/"openwferu" nowadays). A spanish name variation would be
welcome as well.

As Gonzalo said, Ruby (and Json) output would be neat.

ruote-fluo has a distinctive feature : it can be used to display the
position of a workitem (or workitems) in a process instance. Do you
plan to add such a feature to your tool ?


OK, that's all for me.

Congratulations ! Looking forward to work with you !

-- 
John Mettraux   -   http://jmettraux.wordpress.com

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