On 20/12/2018 17:46, James Feeney wrote:

There also seems to be a presumption that a "newbie" is, or should be, running 
luci.  I believe that that is also an inappropriate assumption.
I think that is a pretty reasonable assumption. A newbie does need a web interface. I would say more: that is what brings a lot more attractiveness to the usage  and to the project itself.

Vast majority of people who use OpenWrt on their routers are not developers or very technical and don't think as developers, don't even know what SSH or Telnet means but they are pretty comfortable in using a intuitive web interface as LuCI is. So in short Web Interface for a version that is not custom is kind of vital.

Now, how to treat this issue for 4MB I am not sure yet. Need to give it some extra thought and I am not worried about customized versions because then the person know what he's doing.

One more thing: I find it horrible in 2018/2019 when people remove IPv6 support at any conditions in order to save space or memory. This shows a very bad example and in my view should not stimulated. Perhaps not have other packages in favor of keeping IPv6 but that's another discussion.

Regards

Using some web interface is not necessarily any easier than using a command line interface.  Just because 
Apple or Microsoft teach people to use a Graphical User Interface does not mean that LEDE/OpenWRT should be 
doing the same thing.  "Newbie" is not the same thing as "Dumbed-Down".  Now, if there is 
no text-terminal-based configuration "helper" for LEDE/OpenWRT, again, that is a distinct issue to 
discuss here.

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