Dear Authors/Chairs/ADs,

Please see below for feedback from the designated expert.

Best regards,

David Dong
IANA Services Sr. Specialist

On Fri Aug 01 20:52:10 2025, gregimir...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi David,
> thank you for your kind consideration. Iread the latest version of the
> draft and found that my concern about the naming new IEs ( see
> comments
> from 10, 2024
> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/kbNvNZgNfDThtg3ZZj9q0Jawx80/>)
> is
> not addressed, along with concerns with using undefined entities like
> "OAM
> node" and "Collector". Below, please find my comments to the
> draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry-20 </>:
> 
> - Characterization if Passport and Postcard modes in the Introduction
> is
> not consistent with RFC 9232 where the passport mode is referred to
> IOAM as
> defined in RFC 9127, while postcard mode - to RFC 9326. According to
> RFC
> 9232, the passport mode is when telemetry information is collected
> along
> the path and transported in the trigger packet, while postcard mode -
> such
> information is collected and transported from each traversed node by
> some
> mechanism, e.g., over the management plane.
> - Combining "Hybrid Type I" with "Passive" in reference to performance
> metrics is confusing and inaccurate. RFC 7799 defines hybrid
> measurement
> methods as a combination of the elements of passive and active
> measurement
> methods. Furthermore, RFC 7799 identifies two types of hybrid
> measurement
> methods - Type I (IOAM and Alternate Marking are examples of it) and
> Type
> II. There's no mention of Hybrid Type I Passive in RFC 7799.
> - Another concern with the naming new IPFIX IEs is reference to IP in
> "HybridType1_Passive_IP". Is it to signify that the IEs are applicable
> only
> to delay measurement of the IP flows? But can they be used to export
> delay
> metrics of, for example, an MPLS flow?
> - Some key elements used in the document, e.g., "OAM node" and
> "Collector", are underdefined.
> - I consider the content of Section 3.2.2 Packet Stream
> Generation essential and that the reader must understand any document
> referenced in the section. Hence, I believe that references to
> [I-D.zhou-ippm-enhanced-alternate-marking]  and
> [I-D.fz-spring-srv6-alt-mark] must be normative, if the Alternate
> Marking
> method is in the scope of the document.
> 
> I hope that my comments are helpful.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg
> 
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 1:46 PM David Dong via RT <
> drafts-expert-review-comm...@iana.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > That will be fine, thank you!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > David Dong
> > IANA Services Sr. Specialist
> >
> > On Tue Jul 29 20:44:30 2025, gregimir...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hi David,
> > > my apologies for the belated response and missing the deadline. I
> > > can
> > > review the current version by August 1st. Please let me know if
> > > that is
> > > acceptable to you.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 12:39 PM David Dong via RT <
> > > drafts-expert-review-comm...@iana.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Greg,
> > > >
> > > > Just a ping on this one if you're available to take another look
> > > > at
> > this
> > > > document.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > David Dong
> > > > IANA Services Sr. Specialist
> > > >
> > > > On Wed Jul 16 20:58:45 2025, michael.sch...@hs-esslingen.de
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi David,
> > > > >
> > > > > As Greg has already reviewed earlier versions of this document,
> > > > > I
> > > > > believe that he is in a better position to review this
> > > > > document.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Greg is not available, I'd have a look myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not followed this document in detail so far. As far as I
> > > > > can
> > > > > see, there has been a OPSAWG list discussion regarding IANA in
> > > > > the
> > > > > past. For what it is worth, I back some of the questions raised
> > > > > by
> > > > > Greg in his past e-mail
> > > > > (
> > > >
> > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/kbNvNZgNfDThtg3ZZj9q0Jawx80/
> > > > ).
> > > > > And at least in the list archive it is not clear how all of
> > > > > them have
> > > > > been resolved, as there is only one follow-up posting. For
> > > > > instance,
> > > > > RFC 7799 Section 3.8 doesn't really define a combination of
> > > > > "Hybrid
> > I"
> > > > > and "Passive", as far as I read the text of RFC 7799. But Greg
> > > > > has
> > > > > probably more context regarding that discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: David Dong via RT <drafts-expert-review-
> > > > > > comm...@iana.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2025 12:01 AM
> > > > > > Cc: gregimir...@gmail.com; Scharf, Michael
> > > > > > <Michael.Scharf@hs-
> > > > > > esslingen.de>; opsawg@ietf.org
> > > > > > Subject: [IANA #1422930] expert review for draft-ietf-opsawg-
> > > > > > ipfix-
> > > > > > on-path-
> > > > > > telemetry (performance-metrics)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Greg Mirsky, Michael Scharf (cc: opsawg wg),
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As the designated experts for the Performance Metrics
> > > > > > Registry, can
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > review the proposed registrations in
> > draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-
> > > > > > telemetry-19 for us? Please see
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-
> > > > > > path-
> > > > > > telemetry/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The due date is July 28th.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this is OK, when the IESG approves the document for
> > > > > > publication,
> > > > > > we'll make
> > > > > > the registration at:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/performance-metrics/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unless you ask us to wait for the other reviewer, we’ll act
> > > > > > on the
> > > > > > first response
> > > > > > we receive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Dong
> > > > > > IANA Services Sr. Specialist
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

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