From: OPSEC <opsec-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Arnaud Taddei
<arnaud.taddei=40broadcom....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Sent: 08 August 2023 09:58
Thank you Jen,
Quick comments from a train in Germany
1. As I am still learning the IETF, I am a bit surprised. If ‘minutes’ mean
‘a script of what was said on the mic’ then this is ok. But as chair in another
world, I have other expectations if these mean minutes:
* The minimum I expect is what is the decision made for each point in
clear text, something like:
* “the group decides X” | “the group adopts Y” | “the group doesn’t
adopt Z but recommends W as a way forward”
<tp>
The IETF has its own idiosynchratic way of working which is not quite like any
other SDO.
Decisions - to proceed, give up, choose something different - are taken on the
mailing list ie here; never at a meeting, virtual or in person. When a
decision is called for, then the WG Chairs make the call with an e-mail and
people on the list respond. The WG Chairs then judge and declare consensus;
again this is not a vote but a consensus. The Chairs may judge that support
from six implementers weighs more than opposition from ten operators:-) Such
is the IETF. You will often see in minutes a note of consensus in the room
which needs to be confirmed on the list.
An e-mail duly follows.
Tom Petch
1. Actually the quote: “in the EU there is big DORA, capability of the EU to
do pentesting, maybe look at that if that is "adding water to your mill »
* This quote is attributed to Fernando but it was actually me 😊
* I would prefer it to be amended a bit as right now it doesn’t
translate right (and I can’t listen the replay right now):
i. “in the
EU there is the big DORA regulation which gives the EU the capability to do
pentesting using its TIBER-EU model, maybe [Fernando] look at that if that is
"adding water to your mill »
Hope this helps
Best Regards
From: OPSEC <opsec-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Jen Linkova
<furr...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 8 August 2023 at 10:36
To: opsec WG <opsec@ietf.org>
Cc: OpSec Chairs <opsec-cha...@ietf.org>
Subject: [OPSEC] OpSec@IETF117: Meeting minutes
Hello,
The meeting minutes from the IETF117 OpSec session have been published:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/materials/minutes-117-opsec-202307272230&source=gmail-imap&ust=1692088607000000&usg=AOvVaw3WLg34HD6PvFII0gWatbkL
Many thanks to Henk for taking them!
If you said smth during the session pls check the minutes and ensure
that your comment was captured correctly.
Please let the chairs know if you think the minutes need to be amended.
--
Jen and Ron
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