On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:54:29 +0200 "Ano Nymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sorry for creating such an "excitement", it wasnt my intention. i >would love to continiue this discussion on an incognito forum or >mailinglist, but i couldnt find any. > >i just asked here, because i couldnt find a more appropriate place to >ask for help with incognito. for those who dont know what it is: its a >linux live cd (like knoppix) with a focus on privacy, and privacy >applications. its pre configured for the best possible anonymity (i >hope ;) ) Ah. Thank you. > >anyway, i didnt want to take my problem to a random linux forum, >because i need help with the specific configuration of the "incognito" >cd, which i thought was best known here. since incognito is a live cd >it is also supposed to work out of the box with little or no user >interaction required to boot correctly! this irritates me even more, >because i am not aware that i have "special" hardware that requires >extra configuraton on my end. its just a one year old ati card, which >was very popular at the time. As noted previously, the few messages you posted before showed the problem to be one of X11, and possibly LINUX kernel, support for your graphics card, rather than of Incognito. So, please, let's take this off the list to private email. If your ATi card is only a year old and is not of an old model (e.g., Radeon 9200), then the support you'll get with the native drivers is quite limited, but is available and does work. The recent R500- series-based cards are, AFAIK, only supported as VESA devices. The R500-series core is apparently unrelated to the earlier, R100-R40 series of cores, and thus the open source community has not yet devised an appropriate driver. Thanks to ATi's intransigence in refusing to provide information to the open source developers, we still don't have open-source support for hardware 3-D acceleration for chips that are now over three years old, much less for the newer hardware. > >the fglrx driver also shouldnt be the problem, because i have ubuntu >installed on a partition on my harddrive, and it works correctly You haven't yet posted the configuration file or any of the other stuff we would need to know whether you even have the fglrx driver installed, much less are using it. You may be using it with just the VESA support. Here's the list of cards that the native radeon driver recognizes as of X.org 6.9, though the more recent ones do not have support for 3-D hardware acceleration. I haven't messed with 7.x yet, but am told that no new Radeon support was added during the X.org reorganization that occurred with 7.x. (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP), ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI ES1000 515E (PCI), ATI ES1000 5969 (PCI), ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), ATI Mobility FireGL 7800 M7 LX (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BC (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, ATI Radeon 9200PRO 5960 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 NF (AGP), ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI FireGL RV360 AV (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), ATI FireGL Mobility T2 (M10) NT (AGP), ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650, ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V3200 (RV380) 3E54 (PCIE), ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V3100 (RV370) 5B64 (PCIE), ATI FireGL D1100 (RV370) 5B65 (PCIE), ATI Radeon Mobility M300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7200 (R423) UQ (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5100 (R423) UR (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) UT (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE), ATI Mobility FireGL V5100 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X800 (M28) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X800 XT (M28) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XL (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 SE (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 XTP (R430) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 5D4C (PCIE), ATI Radeon FireGL (R480) GL 5D50 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X850 PRO (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 SE (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT (R480) (AGP), ATI Radeon X850 XT PE (R480) (AGP) >there. if you need me to supply logs or anything just tell me how, and >i will post them. > Okay, but please just send them to me, and don't bother the or-talk list with this stuff. I'm not a LINUX user and don't have a LINUX system handy, so we'll have to work together on this. First, try looking for the X configuration file. Look in /usr and /usr/local for a directory called something like X11R6 or X11R7. On my FreeBSD system with X.org 6.9, the configuration file is in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf. (If you're running XFree86 instead of X.org, you'll have to hunt around a bit, but XFree86 is probably a directory name somewhere in the path you're looking for.) The error messages you posted earlier should also have been written to a log file. Near the start of the messages on your screen should be a pair of lines like (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Sep 17 12:30:33 2007 (==) Using config file: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf" which give you the paths of the two files we're looking for here. Depending upon how your LINUX system handles console messages vs. graphics stuff, you may be able (when X is not running) to do something like pressing the "Fn" and "Scroll Lock" keys together and then using the "Page Up" key to page back to where the startup messages appeared. When you find the log file, please send me its contents, beginning with the most recent startup of X in the log file. Also include the configuration file. If your system has the dmesg(1) command, please also send that, starting with the last boot. My apologies to or-talk readers that we are *still* having this off-topic discussion here. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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