On 01/01/2008, F. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > These are Tor's hidden services: Servers accessible anonymously, where > both client and server are unknown to each other. =:o) > > Since such services are visible only via Tor, they would fall under the > darknet definition, I believe. >
This is what I was getting at ... just didn't say it right :( I have often wondered just how big the network could get, and what impact this has on the Internet. There are many Internet resources that will always be needed - e.g. email will need to be accessible from / routed to Tor; Google, Wikipedia, Universities, etc are not going to be replicated, ... At the moment the rest of the Internet can ignore Tor (except for those who want to block it) but - if big enough - one could imagine the need for ubiquitous gateway services to allow simple (transparent?) access to resources within the network. Of course it has to get big enough first. PGP is still struggling (I don't even have a signing key for this email address) and services such as Usenet which were huge in their time are now rapidly being replaced. (This one really irks me - a fantastic idea with some basic privacy elements built in, being replaced by lesser technologies). SSL, OTOH, has become pretty much mainstream and is still developing ... the challenge to be able to grow Tor will be to do the same - make it mainstream. Of course to become mainstream it needs to be REAL easy. And if Tor gets to the point where it is so simple that you don't really need to understand it, there is a distinct possibility that many of the benefits may no longer be realised (how do you know you've got a secure, private connection if you don't understand WHY it is secure and private - particularly what *isn't* provided). Maybe I'm looking too far forward and should just see how the software and its usage develops. Given some of the recent moves by major western governments I think more and more people are going to discover a need for this sort of software. Jo