-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Thus spake Ringo Kamens, on 1/2/2008 4:17 PM: > Also, see http://www.schneier.com/essay-198.html > And yeah, I was talking about the NSA key.
Personally (and god help me), I believe Microsoft when they say the key is not a key back door key. If it was, I wonder if they would name it "NSA". Or is that what they want us to think? :) The Schneier essay about the random number generator is more interesting, and worth reading. Eugene > Comrade Ringo Kamens > > On Jan 2, 2008 4:24 PM, Nick Mathewson < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 02:47:11PM -0600, Eugene Y. Vasserman wrote: > > Thus spake Ringo Kamens on Sun, 23 Dec 2007: > > > > (snip) > > > Also, we know the NSA and DoJ have engaged in > > > this type of activity in the past such as "working" with > Microsoft to > > > secure vista and having their private key inserted into windows > > > versions so they could decrypt things. > > > > I've heard of the Vista bit, but what are you referring to, as far as > > having a decryption key for Windows stuff? I know they had one in... > > What was it? Lotus Notes? > > He's probably referring to the "NSAKey" key in NT 4. For more > information, see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsakey > > It's a secondary code-signing key, allegedy to be used if their > primary code signing key needed to be revoked. > > If you believe Microsoft, the key was called "_NSAKEY" because it was > introduced in order to meet NSA requirements for a secondary key. > Naming things after the software or organization that requires them, > rather than after their actual purpose, is not unusual for Microsoft: > Their office XML spec is littered with stuff like the notorious > AutoSpaceLikeWord95. > > Personally, I don't believe that contemporary operating systems are so > secure that the NSA would rather have security holes custom-built for > it instead of just using the ones that are already there. > > peace, > -- > Nick > > - -- Eugene Y. Vasserman Ph.D. Candidate, University of Minnesota http://www.cs.umn.edu/~eyv/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iFcDBQFHfEuob9W6r3tKSVIRCHVjAQC3wB/kJGrFUJLhG6zZ3LM3FE6U9reqV6G+ pMcf2AG0lwEAmBEpgN+k8OWOsM26xIiv8XuneEKqM6scqEaKu9xSsTE= =J/si -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----