Speaking as a neutral (English), I like both countries just fine and each
has its good (and bad) points.

Thoroughly enjoyed all of my trips over there (in fact, we have holidayed
nowhere else since 1992) and the thing I like best was depending on where
you go (in the same country), outlooks on life, habits and cultures seem to
be as diverse as that between some countries.

Been to British Columbia (x2) and Alberta in Canada
Maine, Florida, Washington(x2), Hawaii(x2), California, Nevada and Arizona
in the States.

Out of the few places I have been to, I vote Vancouver No 1. I took a lot
into consideration here but found it to be the place on top of all other
things, where I would consider actually living and putting down roots
(Honolulu was fantastic however !!). My wife wanted to live in Victoria on
the Island, very pretty but a little sleepy for my liking.

I've still got a hell of a lot to see and do (so little time and money).

Cheers

Lee


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Where would the US be without Molsen's and Labatt's, Eh?, ya know?

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<RANT>
Typical, a hotmail account spouting off what they know nothing
about.

Fact:   The longest undefended border in the world is between Canada
        and the US. ( > 7000 miles)

Granted this reflects better on the US than Canada, as we could put
the whole Canadian population along the border and still couldn't hold
hands.

Question: 
        Name any other state that has lived peacefully beside it's 
        neighbour with 1/10 of the population for almost 200 years?
        
        Russia and the Ukraine? China and Tibet? Germany and Denmark? 

It is almost 200 years because one of the defining moments of 
Canadian history is the War of 1812. 

        Canadian Geopolitical Summary:
                We kicked America's butt.
        American Geopolitical Summary:
                We kicked Britains butt.
        British Geopolitical Summary:
                We kicked Napoleons butt.

Pierre Berton's "War of 1812" and "Flames Across the Border" provide
a slightly biased but relatively fair view of this conflict from the
Canadian viewpoint. There are no similar British or American texts
because the Canadian theatre was a very minor and trivial part of
this conflict. 

<Canadian Patriotism On>
Please note that this is the only war America has ever lost. To a
bunch of meek and mild Canadians...
</CanPat>

The truth is that the largest force in Canada at the time was 
the British army.

Typically Canadian, one of our nation building moments hardly involved
us. 

I am proud to be Canadian, I am proud to be best friends with America.
Thank you, America for being our friend.

Does Canada have problems, you bet. Does America have problems, more
than us
the poor fellows.

We do not follow America, we guide it, help it, support it and party
with it.  

And if the rest of the world was as reasonable as they are, Canada could
help
them too. ( Apologies to the citizens of many states I have slandered
with 
the above comment ) 

Before you comment on cultures you have not experienced it would be
advisable 
to at least visit there as a tourist. If you work there for a while you
may even
realize that what is "common knowledge" is wrong. After spending six
weeks in 
Moscow, 2 years ago, I do not believe anything I read in the media (it
is both
better and worse than it is reported). 

And yes, there is a separate Canadian culture. (Part of which is
wondering if 
we have a separate culture.)  


</RANT>

Sigh.., and the day after I promised Jared I would behave.

Dave
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