After engaging Oracle WWS concerning this issue we have learned that there
have been a significant
number of complaints regarding performance when upgrading to 8.1.6.x.

It appears that re-running your ANALYZE is not enough.

Dropping statistics and then running ANALYZE might be required.





---------------------- Forwarded by Dan Hubler/DS/MICORP on 03/26/2001
11:41 AM ---------------------------

Dan Hubler
03/23/2001 01:46 PM


To:   "Ruiz, Mary A (CAP, CDI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ MICORPEX
cc:   "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Optimizer mode was CHOOSE in both releases.

Statistics are estimated at 10 percent.

Used command-line migration tool.

Thanks for replying.







"Ruiz, Mary A (CAP, CDI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/23/2001 12:37:15
PM

To:   "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Dan:
  Thanks for your answer.  What is your optimizer method in the 8.1.6 db
vs. what it was in 7.3.4 ? (I think Oracle 8 defaults to Choose)  Do you
have statistics computed or
estimated on the table ?  What method did you use to migrate ? export /
import, migration assistant , or command-line migration tool ?

I would also look at indexes on the table, Maybe the query is using an
index when it should not or vice-versa.

Thanks in advance,
  Mary

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The thing that is killing us is a single query.

This query does a group by.

It also references some user-defined functions in the column-list of the
SELECT statement.

These user-defined functions are actually SELECTS from 2 other small
tables.

It is not behaving the same way it did in version 7.3.4.

The table that the query runs against is pretty big (700,000 rows across 4
gig).
The 2 tables referenced by the user-defined functions are very small (10-20
rows).








"Ruiz, Mary A (CAP, CDI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/22/2001 04:18:30
PM

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Dan:
  What kinds of problems ?  I am beginning a migration of a hybrid OLTP /
OLAP database from 7.3.4 to 8.1.5 on Solaris 2.6  We are planning to take 6
weeks to "clean up" the
database and fix the chained /migrated rows before we migrate (mainly on
the big tables).  We will spend a month testing on a migrated copy before
migrating production.  Our apps
are custom Powerbuilder apps.  I decided to go to 8.1.5 because our other
databases are 8.1.5, and just live with the fact I cannot import a table
from a multiple-table export.
(that bugs me to no end)  I am most interested in responses to this post.
Maybe some truly compelling reasons to go to 8.1.6 , although I heard about
hanging listener problems
with that version which scared me.

thanks in advance,
Mary Ruiz / Atlanta

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:46 PM
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We just migrated the first of our environments from 7.3.4  to  8.1.6  (
Solaris  2.6   ).

We have run into a couple of problems that only seem to appear when
processing
large tables or large amounts of data.

This is kind of what we expected because we did not have the resources to
do full-blown, production size testing.

Anybody have any information on things that go wrong with this type of
migration?



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