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Sriram,
Cherokee is not yet available and there are no papers on the Oracle or
Technet sites yet, although there will be shortly.
A sneak preview of Cherokee was published in the last ODTUG journal which
provides a good overview to the tool.

Anyway - the one paragraph overview:

"Oracle Project Cherokee is a standards-based, declarative development tool
for building high-performance, scaleable HTML transactional data-aware
components which can be embedded into any JSP or Oracle Portal Page. It
combines powerful transactional processing as well as a very rich
interactive HTML UI with an ultra-lightweight HTML footprint. Applications
run natively in commonly used browsers such as Internet Explorer and
Netscape. "


Regards

Duncan Mills
Oracle Forms Product Management
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 12:30 AM


> Friends,
>
> What is Cherokee? is it a forms replacement? Where can I find more on it.
I
> did
> try digging thru the ORACLE website but could not locate any white papers
> etc..
>
> Thanks
>
> Sriram
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: On Behalf Of Openshaw, Michael
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:30 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
> > Subject: RE: Forms going away?
> >
> >
> > Cherokee will substantially improve the issue, but it still will have a
> > problem as far as I'm concerned.  That is the need to load a specific
> > component (about 200K in Cherokee's case, as opposed to
> > Jinitiator) to work
> > with a standard browser.
> >
> > The Web was *supposed* to get us away from controlling client
> > configurations; that's why I like Webserver Generation, where
> > browser-sensitivity is minimized (unless you specifically code for it).
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Walski [ j w a l s k i 3 @ c l a s s i c p l a n . c o m ]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:32 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
> > > Subject: Re: Forms going away?
> > >
> > > That was my thoughts exactly.  I figure they _have_ to support
> > it for who
> > > knows how long, but as far as new functionality, what you see
> > is what you
> > > get.
> > >
> > > I would *love* to see this Project Cherokee perform as
> > described.  Oracle
> > > Forms over the Internet is poor at best.  I just can't get my
> > hopes up, as
> > > Oracle is great at marketing and as for delivering....?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > To: O D T U G - D E V 2 K - L @ f a t c i t y . c o m 
> > > Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:15 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > >Jim, Forms will be around for a Loooong time.  Simply because
> > Oracle will
> > > >not kill it until Oracle Apps moves off of it (and we all know
> > the speed
> > > at
> > > >which Oracle Apps moves forward; calling it glacial would be kind.)
> > > >
> > > >Will forms be continually enhanced?  I would doubt it, past the next
12
> > > >months or so.  The chances of a Forms 8 every seeing the light
> > of day is
> > > >about the same as Egypt winning the Olympic gold medal in hockey.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Jim Walski 
> > > >> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:20 PM
> > > >> To: Multiple recipients of list ODTUG-DEV2K-L
> > > >> Subject: Forms going away?
> > > >>
> > > >> I keep hearing that Forms will continually be enhanced for a
> > long time.
> > > >> However, I sure find it very interesting that Oracle is building a
> > > >> Migration
> > > >> utility to move your Forms .fmb to Cherokee files.
> > > >>
> > > >> Quote from an email received from Susan Duncan
> > > >>
> > > >> "...We have a team of developers who are working on a
> > migration utility
> > > to
> > > >> migrate Developer Forms to Cherokee modules.... "
> > > >>
> > > >> Sure sounds like all new features will be added in Cherokee.
> >  Of course
> > > >> knowing the speed of Oracle development I won't hold my breath for
an
> > > >> early
> > > >> release of Cherokee.

...


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