System Help Is Terrible. (oops, sorry, wrong acronym) gosh, but I'm having a b a a a a a a a a d day. || -----Original Message----- || From: SuzyV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 5:53 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: OT RE: comp.oracle.databases.server vs || ORACLE-L: deathmatch || || || || Which do you suppose is Oracle's definition for the acronym || TAR? Terrain || Avoidance Radar? Threat Assessment Report?? || || http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact || &Acronym=TAR || || || "Mohan, Ross" wrote: || > || > LoL! OK, I'm sorry. || > || > I'm debugging a dictionary cache explosion problem, and || > "support" just informed me that any/all of my questions || > cannot be answered because they are INTERNAL SECRETS. || > || > Yea right; maybe this year, until a smart guy who cares || > (like Steve Adams or Jonathan Lewis or.... ) figures them || > out, or they are published in the next Concepts manual.) || > So, I am in "send me continuous 1 Gigabyte dumps and just || > shut up and sit on yer hands" mode. || > || > Up until this, I haven't filed a "TAR" -- a lie, || > oxymoron, and hint all wrapped in one (the lie is || > that you'll get any technical information, the oxymoron || > is that the acronym implies the word "action" and || > the hint is the word "request") -- in about a year, || > and now I remember why. || > || > There. I'm better now. || > || > Having problems I can't fix (because they are "self-tuning") || > and paid "support" that doesn't really tweaks me right out. || > || > - Ross || > || > p.s. There are, as we know, a handful MAGICALLY WONDERFUL || > support people at OWS. You and I both know one in common. But || > they are few and far between, and deucedly hard to find. || > || > || -----Original Message----- || > || From: A. Bardeen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || > || Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 3:26 PM || > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || > || Subject: Re: OT RE: comp.oracle.databases.server vs || > || ORACLE-L: deathmatch || > || || > || || > || Ross, || > || || > || You're so shy and reserved today... what gives? ;) || > || || > || --- "Mohan, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: || > || > I don't want anyone grabbing my "content", thank you || > || > very much. || > || > || > || > Bunch a rat bastard, mind-maggoting sh*tballs..... || > || > || > || > || -----Original Message----- || > || > || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || > || > || Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 1:56 PM || > || > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || > || > || Subject: Re: comp.oracle.databases.server vs || > || > ORACLE-L: deathmatch || > || > || || > || > || || > || > || Paul, || > || > || || > || > || I haven't look at newsgroup c.o.d.s. for a long || > || > time, basically || > || > || because I got out of the habit of looking at || > || > newsgroups, the || > || > || messaging formatting and software needed seems a || > || > little "unnatural" || > || > || (convoluted) compared to email. But, I'll admit || > || > to laziness. I have || > || > || enough on my hands just trying to read all the || > || > Oracle-NT || > || > || documentation. :) || > || > || || > || > || Anyway, why wait for IOUG to start a ORACLE-NT-L? || > || > || || > || > || As far as technical issues goes, it could easily || > || > be done on yahoo || > || > || groups (formerly "egroups.com") or some similar || > || > "free" site (e.g., || > || > || http://www.escribe.com/ ???), or fatcity (which I || > || > know you feel is a || > || > || bit unreliable/unperformant). I know that Jared || > || > felt uncomfortable || > || > || with the old "eGroups.com" TOS (terms of || > || > service), and after I read || > || > || them, I also felt that some of the || > || > vague/legalistic terminology || > || > || sounded like it might be "funny". For instance, || > || > pat of the || > || > || eGroups.com TOS sounds like it is saying that || > || > they have rights to || > || > || claim ownership of the content of all material || > || > posted, etc. I don't || > || > || know if Jared had other concerns than privacy || > || > ones. || > || > || || > || > || As far as the "Culture" of any Oracle-NT-L, I can || > || > see the possible || > || > || advantage of having some "weighty" expert || > || > personalities || > || > || involved. The || > || > || "culture", and therefore utility, of an email || > || > list "community" is || > || > || almost always enhanced when the list is created || > || > with a good core || > || > || group of people that can provide a sense of || > || > leadership, purpose and || > || > || vision. || > || > || || > || > || regards, || > || > || ep || > || > || || > || > || || > || > || On 9 May 2001, at 23:40, Paul Drake wrote: || > || > || || > || > || Date sent: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:40:20 -0800 || > || > || To: Multiple recipients of list || > || > ORACLE-L || > || > || <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> || > || > || || > || > || > I have to say that the newsgroup || > || > || comp.oracle.databases.server is much || > || > || > more NT Friendly. || > || > || > (IOUG: Did anything happen from IOUG concerning || > || > the || > || > || ORACLE-NT-L mailing || > || > || > list?) || > || > || > Not just Jonathan Lewis, but Sybrand Baker, || > || > Howard Rodgers, Ricky || > || > || > Sanchez put out some pretty good stuff. || > || > || || > || > || ... || > || > || || > || > || || > || > || -- || > || > || Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: || > || > http://www.orafaq.com || > || > || -- || > || > || Author: Eric D. 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