Wow, you're absolutely right (????)
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Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:31 PM
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oh you silly person... it is ALWAYS the DBA's fault, whether or not it has
to do with the database, whether or not the DBA was even employed by the
company at the time of installation, whether or not the DBA had anything to
do with it at all.
Repeat after me: "I'm wrong, I've always been wrong, I will always BE
wrong. Let's move on from there"
:)
>From: "Miller, Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: RE: BMC Patrol - 2nd Wave
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:51:09 -0800
>
>One advantage to never having been consulted on whether it should be done
>and having consultants installing it is that it would be hard to blame me
>for anything that goes wrong :).
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:13 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>My experience is that BMC leaves a big footprint on the systems it
>monitors.
>So unless you have a system with 6+ cpu's the hogs reported are BMC related
>or the slow system is caused by BMC. And the $$$$$$ it costs, ouch.
>
>I have seen better results in shops using Big Brother ( http://bb4.com/
><http://bb4.com/> ) or NetSaint ( http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/
><http://netsaint.sourceforge.net/> ).
>
>Maybe Patrol works for some people. But my advise is to stay away so that
>when the project dies and they try to decide who is to blame for spending
>$$$$$$ on a POS you will not be within ear shot.
>
>That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 1:03 PM
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>
>
>So my boss calls me over yesterday and tells me he needs two servers for
>2nd
>
>Wave to install BMC on to monitor the databases.
>I say, huh?
>
>Apparently the CIO decided to have a consulting company (2nd Wave) install
>and configure BMC to monitor all the databases (Oracle and SQL Server) in
>the company.
>I met with them briefly today (only because I asked to, it hadn't been
>deemed necessary before that) and I'll admit it doesn't look too bad so
>far,
>
>even if we already get all the information they provide (plus more) from
>various sql scripts and statspack.
>
>Does anyone have any gotchas, warnings, "send out your resume NOW"
>recommendations for working with the BMC Patrol product?
>Any experience with 2nd Wave?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Jay Miller
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