As a dba you don't have to do designing and development.  You will find
though 2 years is tough. 
Here is my assessment.

1-3 years experience     Very tough to find a job but everyone wants to
waste your times in interviews
3-5 years experience     Alot of opportunities but will fall short for
"senior" positions
6+  years of experience  Tons of jobs, alot of them want you for midlevel
positions (based on offered salary).

To be honest, there isn't much difference in salary between a 5 year dba and
20 years.
Once you make 5 year mark, your pretty much home free (I am yet to hit it as
I been doing Oracle for 3.5 years, and about 2 of very solid work).  The
first 5 years are tough in my opinion unless you have something special
someone wants.  For me, it has been my dedication and tenacity not my length
of service.

I have talked to alot of DBA's in my short period of time, and I have
detirmined one thing, attitude is KEY. 
You have to have a certain something as there are many things involved with
Oracle and in my opinion very few people in comparison to the amount of
dba's out there actually put effort into it to become better.  

Traits I feel are important:

1.  Hunger, desire to be the best
2.  Ability to stand your ground with developers
3.  Ability to bend for developers when the task depends on it
4.  Ability to stare at a book for hours
5.  Desire to read things just because you want to 
6.  Schedule to handle long hours when in a crunch
7.  Motivation to better yourself when things are slow and everything is
working (hardly ever)
8.  Ability to take critism for everything, it is always a database problem
unless proved otherwise.

Not to go way off topic, but there are jobs out there for 2 year dba's, but
your attitude will be the number 1 factor if you can do anything with them
after you get your foot in the door.  Your recruiter and your resume is what
is the number 1 factor to just get in the door.

I happen to be better once I am in the door, many people happen to be better
at getting in the door.  You have to be able to do both.

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Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 3:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi!..

 Can someone please help me?

 I have worked as oracle Dba for 2 and half years
 and now the recruiters 'complain' that I have
 not done any 'designing or development'.

 Can someone please advise on 'where do I go from here'?

 Thanks

 PS: Oracle is 'useless' in giving such advise, cos
     their 'worldview' starts and ends with OCP.
     which I find recruiters 'barely notice'!!!!!

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Henry Poras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From:Henry Poras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:Fri, 18 May 2001 12:06:50 -0800
Subject:recruiters. Aargh

Funny story from earlier this week. I've been pestered by a recruiter making
cold calls who is trying to get me to hire an Oracle Developer. I told her
we had a hiring freeze, but she claimed he walked on water, and we couldn't
pass him up. I asked her to fax a resume and told her I would look at it. Of
course the resume was nothing special. When I told her "the resume does not
warrent us superceeding the hiring freeze" I could almost hear the lightbulb
popping above her head as she contemplated the next call to our switchboard.
"Warren, is that the name of your manager?" she asked. bye bye.

Henry


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