I use the UTL_FILE pkg to read a bin file and load the data into our database tables (insert or update) . The program works fine - but since we do updates too- we would like to protect out table - by checking the no of rows in the input file - The file has a Header and Tail - CAn someone suggest - how I can scan the binary file - and count the no of rows - before - processing the file ? thanks vikas -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vikas Kawatra INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).