Alex, 

I think you are trying to not be incredibly rude?

How rude of you!

<grin, duck, and run like hell>



|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Hillman, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 3:39 PM
|| To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
|| Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
|| Subject: RE: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O
|| 
|| 
|| I hoped that everybody understand that this was a joke. I 
|| use "damagement"
|| and :-) in the end. I hoped that it was grotesc. Apparently 
|| I was wrong. My
|| apologies for all offended. For people who do not understand 
|| humor I repeate
|| again that it was a joke. 
|| 
|| Alex Hillman
|| 
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Don Granaman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:01 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: Re: Veritas Quick I/0 and Oracle/ Asycnchronous I/O
|| 
|| 
|| I disagree wholeheartedly with this statement Alex.  How can 
|| you make this
|| statement without knowing the situation?  (You seem to be 
|| becoming the
|| resident troller in this group!  Sorry, but it does appear that way.)
|| 
|| In spite of all evidence and repeated warnings, management 
|| often does not
|| allow the most reasonable "solution" - preferring instead to 
|| play ostrich
|| and simply throw hardware at the problem.  Then one day even 
|| this isn't
|| enough or it becomes prohibitively expensive and they want 
|| to hold someone
|| else responsible for their own bad decisions - and the all too common
|| scapegoat hunting expedition begins!  That is when I usually 
|| forward to the
|| "hunters" the same email that I sent them three years ago 
|| (and two years ago
|| and a year ago , and six months ago, ...) analyzing the problem and
|| proposing a reasonable solution - with attached proof (e.g. 
|| tkprof output
|| showing how rewriting a few problematic queries can reduce 
|| CPU utilization
|| by a factor of 72 and LIO by a factor of 6200!  A real life 
|| example - that
|| stayed like this for over three and a hlf years!).
|| 
|| -Don Granaman
|| [certifiable OraSaurus]
|| 
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|| Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:40 PM
|| 
|| 
|| > Of cource you did not do your job properly. Or are you 
|| telling us that
|| > damagement did not do their job properly? I have never 
|| heard anything more
|| > ridiculous. :-).
|| >
|| > Alex Hillman
|| >
|| > -----Original Message-----
|| > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:50 AM
|| > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| >
|| >
|| > Jared wrote:
|| >
|| > >I just *had* to point this out.  Had too many damagers 
|| want to solve
|| > >everything by buying HW when they have no idea what the 
|| problem is.
|| > >
|| >
|| > how about Sun E650, 26 CPUs (yes, I said 26), 9GB RAM
|| >
|| > made the application fly. Until we hit THE ultimate peak 
|| stress day  and
|| > they died. I had spent the year prior screaming about how 
|| the application
|| > needed some serious rewrite or we would die on that day. 
|| Database had been
|| > "designed" (if you can call it that) by people who did not 
|| know Oracle and
|| > so recreated their flat file system.
|| >
|| > They told me that the reason we died was because I had not 
|| done my job
|| > properly.
|| >
|| > What's wrong with that picture?
|| >
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