it makes absolute sense.  And if the developers refuse to understand it, 
liken it to running things as root on a Unix box. Too easy to inadvertently 
do major damage.

to make their lives easier (and therefore your own), why not create synonyms 
for the SYS.xxxxx calls you want them to make so that the scripts will run 
whether or not they are logged in as SYS. I've found that when you don't ask 
someone to change existing code to conform to new standards, it's easier to 
get them to use the new procedure.



>From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: SYS vs SYSTEM
>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:55:43 -0800
>
>Hi all,
>
>I generally use SYSTEM rather than SYS for DBA work, and would like to
>discourage the use of SYS as much as possible. Partly because it
>bypasses auditing and the profile, and also because I tend to regard SYS
>as being for Oracle-specific things (like running scripts from
>$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin) and SYSTEM for doing the day-to-day tasks
>(like administering storage, performance monitoring etc).
>
>Does this reasoning make sense? And, what would be a good way to explain
>it to developers who've gotten used to writing app installation scripts
>than run as SYS (for example, they might refer to AQ$_AGENT rather than
>SYS.AQ$_AGENT)?
>
>Thanks,
>
>g.
>
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