A joke that has been going around the office the last couple of days kind of
fits with this.  Not that bears have anything to do with Oracle but I am
just
coming off a 36 hour downtime in which I upgraded two Oracle databases,
complete
reconfigured another one, and getting tired of waiting for the network to
come
up, simply moved a server from one data center to another so I could finish
work
on it.  We actually rolled it by some people with out them even noticing.
We are talking
about the HP K-class plus two disk array's.  Kind of funny.  Simply not in a
working mode today.

How can you tell if you are being attacked by a black bear or a grizzly?
If, when you climb up a tree it follows you up, its a black bear.  If it
just knocks the tree down, its a grizzly.

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Bears become a problem when they get too familiar with man and when man
intrudes into the bear realm and is not familiar with bear behavior. When
bears get too familiar with man the rangers sometimes have to destroy them.
Sometimes the Yosemite rangers helicopter problem bears to the Yolla Bolly
Wilderness, one of my favorite hiking areas in CA. The rangers told me it
was the "least backpacked wilderness area per square mile in the continental
US" so don't tell anybody about it. I had a few close encounters of the bear
kind there, including a bear eating a dead horse in a camp ground... I
shoo'd him away by throwing rocks at him. Black bears are generally very
predictable but Griz are another story... no telling what's on their mind
and they can turn in an instant. The rumor is that Griz have mamed or killed
more than authorities want to admit. Griz up here are extending their range
out of the Yellowstone so you need to be careful. I have remote properties
and a private cabin north of the Yellowstone so I always take protection...
forget the pepper spray and pack a .44 Magnum! A co-worker told me that Griz
won't bother you if you're in a group of 5 or more but I don't really want
to test the theory. 

Steve Orr, respectful friend of the bear.
Bozeman, MT


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Northern Minnesota is a great place to see bears.  Bears running down the
side of the road, bears in your back yard, bears rifling your stuff when you
are camping, and on a warm late summer evening you can go to the Vince Shute
Wildlife preserve (http://www.americanbear.org/) and see the bears up close
and personal like... THAT is a neat thing to see.

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Closest I've ever come to a bear was when I was on holiday a few weeks ago
in Spain - went to the Barcelona Zoo, down by the docks, and saw one in a
cage.. Not the same as seeing them in their natural environment at all I
guess..:)

The one truly amazing animal they had there though was the worlds only
(known) albino gorilla!! Now THAT is a site to see!! He looks like a big
hairy old man..

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Lee - lerobe
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:11
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A bit touristy I know but I had a marvellous holiday about 2 years ago now
in Vancouver. Jumped on a sea plane on Vancouver Island and flew over to
Knights Inlet on the mainland. Stayed in a cabin (showered by torchlight !!)
and spent 2 days watching grizzlies during the Salmon run. No guns were
carried at any time (just pepper sprays) and we got really close to the
bears.

Thinking of doing it again

Lee

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Thursday, July 05, 2001, 3:40:31 PM, Walt Weaver wrote:
WW> Well, we have remote access from home too, but it might be convenient to
be
WW> able to do this stuff while I'm running from a grizzly in the Absarokas.

I hope I never have the opportunity to run from a grizzly. I
once bumped (not literally) into a black bear while hiking.
Mr. Bear just ignored me, though I was pretty spooked by
the encounter.

Best regards,

Jonathan Gennick
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * 906.387.1698
http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://MetalDrums.org

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