Hi Lisa,

I also have good feelings for VMS so don't see the problem with an Alpha.
As for the disk farms, the RAID 7000 gave very good performance on VMS so 2
of the es10K should be excellent.

You and your company are of course aware that Compaq is planning to stop
Alpha chip development in 2-3 years and will port Tru64, VMS and NonStop
Kernel OS to Itanium processor family. 
(if not see http://www.compaq.com/newsroom/pr/2001/pr2001062501.html 
and http://www.compaq.com/hps/ipf-enterprise/ceo_letter.html as starting
points).

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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Hi Lisa,
 
That doesn't sound too bad, the 8400 is a solid piece of kit. 64-bit, up to
14 CPUs and 28G of memory. They have seriously good I/O bandwidth. Needs a
three-phase power supply and weighs, literally, half a tonne. And best of
all, you can run VMS on them!
 
g
 
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Bruce, 
It's going to be Unix, tru64.  Unfortunately I will be stuck with some old
hardware to start with - an Alpha, 8400, I believe maxes out at 8 cpu's,
along with two old disk farms (compaq esa10k).  I'm slapping together a
bunch of old pieces of hardware, upgrading where needed, obtaining software
licensing where needed, compaq hardware/software support, and with some duct
tape, political brown-nosing done by others and a few users screaming for
their data, I'll hopefully end up with some sort of reporting tool hitting
this.  (BizObj or Cogno$).  Man Cognos is expensive. 
I wish I could choose AIX here.  It's not an option.  
See doesn't this sound like a director's job?? 
Say it again:  I LOVE MY JOB 
Lisa 
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Lisa, 
Some may laugh at the question but what OS - NT, Unix, VMS or ? 
Regards, 
Bruce Reardon 
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Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 4:36 
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Thanks Kimberly, 
I wish it was that way.  I have to justify my request with hard numbers or 
they are going to laugh at me when I say, "Because that's what I want".  :) 
They don't yet know how I'd react to that, it would be a knee-jerk type of 
reaction involving creative expletives...  not pretty.  
Good for you.  At least you have some real hardware and true HA.  I wish I 
did 
Lisa 


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Sent:   Monday, July 09, 2001 12:51 PM 
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Get the biggest, kick ass server they will let you buy.  If your site is 
anything like mine they just keep asking for more and more databases.  So no

matter what I have now I know its not enough.  I am really happy with the 
nice new N-class HP cluster I have sitting next door running Service Guard. 
I am also getting a A-class database cluster for some important but not fab 
critical databases.  Now if I can only get ride of the 5 K-class database 
servers.  Its kind of like when you go from a fast to a slow PC.  Drives me 
crazy.  Not that there are issues with performance from the databases.  It 
would only be me, while playing (which of course means working) on the 
server, that would notice. 
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:30 AM 
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Good morning everyone, 
Lucky me, I get to choose the size of the server this company should 
consider purchasing.  I have been poking around on the net for any 
guidelines - I can make guesses based upon my gut feel and how strapped the 
current unix server is, but I want to be able to back this up with hard 
numbers.  This is for a dw application. 
Can anyone point me to a website, book, or anything in particular that can 
help me justify sizing a machine?  It's so fun working for a company that 
doesn't have a sysadmin on staff...  
Thanks 
Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Data Bored Administrator 
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 
954-935-4117 
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