Ross,
        I love computers and I love tinckering with them to make them run sweetly,
but I don't have a friggen CLUE about what you just wrote!:)  Point me to
the mythical paper where all of this vast knowledge and buzzwords came from
and I will dive in:)
KK

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also, consider turning OFF command tag queueing....check mobo
drivers for i/o bus-related hw....check w/t vice w/b cache, look
at stripe stride vice os block size.....

Ross

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Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:

> Hi all,
>         I was measuring the i/o performance of my scsi drives and I have a
quick
> question that maybe someone could shed some light upon.  Currently I am
> using Ultra 2/Wide scsi conrollers, this is supposed to have an I/O of
> 80mb/s.  Well, when I perform the test all of the machines seem to be
> operation at halp of the max speed.  One operates at about 20mb/s read and
> write and the others are even slower than that.  Now on the first one, it
is
> the only HD on the controller, on the others there are two disks.  Even on
> my Ultra/160 it seems to be maxing out at 40 read and write.
>         Am I missing something?  Am I reading this the wrong way?  Help:(
>
> Sincerely,
> Kevin Kostyszyn
> DBA
> Dulcian, Inc
> www.dulcian.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kevin,

download SandraSoft's benchmarking tools - download.com is a good place to
start.
There is quite a difference between SCSI controller interface speeds and
actual
trasfer speeds between the OS and the physical hard drive. The Interface
speed is a
theoretical max, and is more important when configuring several drives on a
single
controller channel - e.g. RAID 0, 0+1, 5, etc.
If you have 4 drives on a channel configured as a 4 drive RAID 0 volume, the
controller channel SCSI interface speed could be the rate-limiting-factor.
(e.g. 4
drives with an *average* transfer rate of 25 MB/sec = 100 MB/sec > 80
MB/sec).

As there is a cache on the hard drive (2-4 MB is customary) and could be a
cache on
the RAID contoller (128 MB - 4 GB?) the channel should be saturated during
memory to
memory transfers (after negotiation for the transfer has taken place) -
short bursts
which are then slowed by the subsequent access of the phyiscal media.

Typical sustained read/write speeds are on the order of 30 MB/sec on the
latest and
greatest 10,000 RPM drives.
The fastest sustained read/write I've seen is here - is for the 15,000 RPM
Seagate
Cheetah - close to 50 MB/sec on the outer tracks
http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200105/20010510ST373405LW_1.html

Interface                speed (MB/sec)
SCSI
Ultra Wide     UW          40
Ultra2 Wide    U2W         80
Ultra160       U160       160
Ultra320       U320       320

IDE
UDMA-33        ATA-4       33
UDMA-66        ATA-5       66
Ultra ATA      ATA-6      100

Most likely, seek time will dominate transfer time unless you hike the
operating
system IO_size up from 64 KB.

this site looks like fun:
http://www.storagereview.com/cgi-bin/bench_compare.pl

remember - little 'b' is bits, big 'B' is Bytes.
This is extremely important if you happen to look at NAS - using Gigabit
Ethernet
for shared storage.

Paul

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