This is the way my current employers shop was.  After I started here as a
SQL Server DBA I was told they want me to become the Oracle DBA for a new
third party app they were getting.  They already had two other apps using
Oracle.  These other apps were up and running for a couple of years.  Within
the first couple of months of learning Oracle I was able to access the other
Oracle databases with the standard SYS and SYSTEM logins.  These were
systems that at the time, I did not have access to.  Well the next day, I
told damagement and now I have three Oracle systems. :)

Dave

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I would doubt he's joking. I've had simular experiences....

transferred to another department within the same company. Get a call from 
my old boss "our dba is out sick, we HAVE to have this done today, this is a

highly secured system you have to help and make the changes from this pc"

I go there, cannot log into the database with the username and password he 
gives me. We call the dba (who was really sick), apologize and ask for the 
username and password -- same as what I had. Still does not work. I stop, 
think and say "let me try something"

and log in as system/manager

I do what they ask me to, then take my old boss aside and explain (gently) 
that he has a security hole in his "highly secured" system that I could 
drive a truck through.




>From: paquette stephane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Re[2]: security problem with 8i
>Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 07:25:48 -0800
>
>Are you joking ?
>
>  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : >     Although there
>has been so much publicity of
> > security "holes" in Oracle, in
> > particular the listener, the one hole that really
> > causes me concern is the
> > default passwords for sys and system and/or using
> > the username as a password.
> > Over the past 2 years I've been to a few sites, like
> > 4, at a friends request
> > and/or on an interview where the manager said "show
> > me" and each time I've been
> > able to log onto the DB with any of the following:
> >
> > sys/change_on_install
> > sys/sys
> > system/system
> > system/manager
> >
> > Now come on, this was an old V6 thing that we were
> > suppose to do, and we're
> > still not!!
> >
> > Dick Goulet
> >
> > ____________________Reply
> > Separator____________________
> > Author: Ray Stell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date:       7/18/2001 5:15 AM
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 03:45:57AM -0800, Jon
> > Walthour wrote:
> > > Listers:
> > >
> > > My client has asked me to look into this issue and
> > determine if they should
> > > be concerned about it or not. Since they don't
> > have any db's directly
> > > accessible from the Internet and since their LAN
> > is very secure anyway, I'm
> > > inclined to not apply any patches based on the
> > premise that if it isn't a
> > > necessary patch, don't apply it in fear of
> > breaking something else. What do
> > > you think?
> > > --
> >
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> >
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