Lisa,
 You are right about the concern about fragmentation over the number
of extents. When you use LMT's that have manually sized extents 
rather that the auto-allocate option, you have a good handle on the
fragmentation problem. If you have a number of different tablespaces 
you can size the extents to match the tables put in them or visa-versa.
As an example: if the table is large make the extents large (20 M),
if the tables are small make the extents small (10 K).
when you built the tables make your initial and next extent size 
the same extent size as the LTM and or a multiple of the LTM extent
size. The waste will be eliminated if the table is active and the WHM
is moved downward. 
 If you use the autoallocate option the LMT extents will grow in size
as the need for space increases.
 For an explaination see:
http://www.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/00-nov/o60o8i.html
I have migrated a 15 tablespace , 150 table ,  72 GIG database 
with the data critical by date in each table and there was a lot of 
wasted space to LMT with 148 tablespaces  partitioned by date
range for the tables and the waste (free space) is minimul and the 
speed of the applications has increased. A BIGGGG plus will be
the database management options I will have when the damagements
decides on the data retention policy.
ROR mª¿ªm

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Raghu, 

There are differing opinions regarding multiple extents.  I subscribe to the
belief that multiple extents are not a bad thing.  The latency between the
extent reads is not a factor until the number of extents reaches ~4000.  I
remember reading a white paper on this topic, however I can't tell you
exactly where it is off the top of my head.  

If I was the dba for this database, I would be more concerned with
fragmentation and size of extents than the number of extents.  If you
understand your data thoroughly, have fairly accurate estimates for growth
and understand the application it is supporting, you can choose your extent
sizes properly and won't have the problem of 4000+ extents.  Uniform extent
sizes are optimal to avoid fragmentation.

My choice to avoid fragmentation is the method in the white paper entitled
'How to Stop Defragmenting and Start Living'.  I don't know about LMT's,
haven't read up on them, but just from the discussions I've seen on the list
about them, it looks like may be an implementation of this idea. 

Here's another way to look at it:  If you think multiple extents are bad,
are you going to create a tablespace with a 6gb datafile for your 6gb
1-extent index and hope it doesn't grow?   With larger databases this idea
breaks down very quickly. 

HTH, and list, correct me if I am wrong about LMT's.  I can always blame it
on the pain killers.

Lisa Koivu
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raghu Kota [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:31 PM
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> Subject:      effect of Initial and Next exents...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Friends
> 
> I obsered in my big database Tables and Indexes set different Initial and 
> next extents..So How it will effect on performance?? Suppose one my big 
> table has initial 72Mb and next 245Mb..All big indexes(6Gb) was set low 
> Initial and next around 245Mb..Any ideas about the performance and 
> rectification??...
> 
> TIA
> Raghu.
> 
> 
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