This seems to be standard practice any more... SIGH! But Oracle must be one
of the worst offenders.

I once was looking to implement Oracle Financials as a "paying beta
customer" (Shouldn't this be a contradiction in terms?). Oracle was the
alpha and Sequent Computer in Oregon was the original beta (Oracle and
Sequent had a pretty tight relationship back then). The Sequent
implementation was on their own servers running "Dynix," a Unix derivative.
Our implementation was to be a port to VAX/VMS. What a mess! Bug city and
Oracle still wanted to charge us big bucks for beta software!! Oracle
eventually dropped the VMS port and I believe the first commercial version
of the Oracle Apps did not ship for another 2-3 years. I wonder, how many
companies paid for Oracle's development costs?

Steve Orr


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 9:29 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


regression testing?, heck we are the alpha/beta/regression testers :)

joe


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/26/01 10:35AM >>>
This makes me wonder: what kind of regression testing is implemented by
oracle?
Trial and error? It makes me wonder, oh it makes me wander ("Stairway to
Heaven")

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. Bardeen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 6:15 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: FYI: new alert regarding 8.1.7.2 patchset
> 
> 
> Note: 153172.1 "ALERT: Do NOT Install 8.1.7.2.0 Patch
> Set on top of 8.1.7.1"
> 
> 
> 8.1.7.2.0 Patch Set Does Not Install Correctly Over
> 8.1.7.1/8.1.7.1B
>  
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
>     This alert will be updated to indicate the current
> status of
>     this problem. The modification history is shown at
> the END of the
>     alert.
> 
>   Versions Affected 
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>     This problem affects the installation of the
> 8.1.7.2.0 Patch Set.
> 
>    
>   Platforms Affected 
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>     This problem affects the following platforms only:
>           HPUX (Oracle 32 bit release)
>           HPUX (Oracle 64 bit release)
>           Compaq Tru64
>           Intel Solaris
> 
>     This problem does NOT affect the following
> platform:
>           Sun Sparc Solaris (Oracle 32 bit release)
> 
>     8.1.7.2 has not been released on any other
> platform yet.
>           Other platforms will have this problem
> corrected prior
>           to their 8.1.7.2 Patch Set being released.
> 
> 
>   Description 
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>     If the 8.1.7.2.0 Patch Set is installed on top of
> either 8.1.7.1 or
>     8.1.7.1B then the patch set does not install
> correctly. No errors
>     are reported during the installation but the
> Oracle version banner still
>     shows the version to be 8.1.7.1.
>    
> 
>   Likelihood of Occurrence 
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>     You will encounter this problem if you install the
> 8.1.7.2.0 patch set
>     on top of either 8.1.7.1 or 8.1.7.1B on any of the
> platforms listed above.
> 
>     You are STRONGLY advised NOT to install 8.1.7.2.0
> on top of 8.1.7.1
>     releases until this issue is addressed.
>    
> 
>   Possible Symptoms 
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>     The main visible symptoms of this issue are:
>           a. The Oracle version banner still shows the
> RDBMS release to be
>              8.1.7.1
>           b. SELECT * FROM V$VERSION shows the release
> to be 8.1.7.1
>           c. Bugs fixed in 8.1.7.2 may still be
> encountered 
> 
>     There may be additional symptoms not yet
> discovered as the resulting
>     installation contains an untested combination of
> modules.
>    
> 
>   Workaround 
>   ~~~~~~~~~~
>     The only workaround to this problem is to install
> 8.1.7.2.0 on top of
>     an 8.1.7.0 Oracle installation.
>     ie: If the current installation is at release
> 8.1.7.1, then you must
>         reinstall 8.1.7.0 and then apply the 8.1.7.2
> patch set.
> 
>     If you have already installed 8.1.7.2 on top of
> 8.1.7.1 then it is
>     advisable to reinstall the base release (8.1.7.0)
> and then apply
>     the patch set on top of this to get a proper
> 8.1.7.2 release 
>     installed.
> 
> 
>   Patches
>   ~~~~~~~
>     The affected patch sets will be re-released
> shortly with the
>     version number 8.1.7.2.1. These updated patch sets
> will install 
>     on top of 8.1.7.1, 8.1.7.1B or 8.1.7.0. If
> possible please 
>     avoid upgrading until the revised patch sets are
> released.
> 
> 
>   References
>   ~~~~~~~~~~
>     Base bug reporting the install problem            
>     [BUG:1898001]
>      
> 
>   Modification History:
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>     26-Jul-2001   Initial alert that 8.1.7.2 does not
> install over 8.1.7.1
>  
> ______________________________________________________________
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>   .
> 
> 
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