This is why I have chosen to live in a rural community so that I can have a
huge garden and many fruit trees.  And for the meat eaters, you can hunt
Deer, turkey, pheasant and many other critters.  This way I know that my
produce has no chemicals and does not get picked until ripe.  I just picked
my first tomatoes yesterday.  I had lived in places like Chicago and San
Francisco but got tired of the traffic and the high cost of living.  Yes, I
make less than my counter parts from the big cities but my costs are less.
But more importanly, I live in a place where I can walk out my backdoor and
see nothing but fields and forest.  It's the greatest cure for stress!!

Dave

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Rachel,

Do you have the 'Farmer's markets' in NY like we have here in CA? (where
farmers freight and sell their farm-grown veggies and fruits in a specially
agreed upon place/schedule) Have *entirely* stopped buying veggies/fruits
from the grocery store since the farmer's markets opened this Spring. Will
miss them in Fall/Winter though.... I did go down to a farm and hand-picked
berries in NJ when we were there. Is it worth the drive down the turnpike?

John Kanagaraj

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:17 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
>
>
>Ian,
>
>You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for 
>how you seem 
>to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just 
>living with that 
>as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a 
>child must be 
>infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who 
>raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, "in 
>case he got 
>hurt".
>
>You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of 
>non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I 
>tend to frequent 
>the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy 
>in stores. Even 
>then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I 
>have converted 
>one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries 
>again, he tried 
>some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced.
>
>Rachel
>
>
>>From: "MacGregor, Ian A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
>>Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800
>>
>>So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks.  What was the 
>life expectancy 
>>of early hominids?  I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild 
>>blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter 
>than the store 
>>bought ones.
>>
>>Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an 
>article store 
>>bought food is less nutritious than wild food.  The purpose 
>of fruit is to 
>>be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive  system 
>intact to be 
>>planted with a little fertilizer.  The sweeter the fruit, the 
>more animals 
>>are attracted, the greater chance of the plant dispersing its progeny.
>>
>>As far as I can tell taste takes a second seat to looks with 
>commercial 
>>produce.  Produce is picked before its time so it can be transported 
>>unbruised.  It doesn't taste as good as the stuff off a backyard tree.
>>
>>
>>My daughter is autistic.  We have her on a cassein and gluten 
>free diet.  
>>It seems to have done her some good; her attentiveness has 
>increased and 
>>her perserveration has dropped.  My wife swears it has; I 
>lean more towards 
>>non-casual coincidence, but I don't want  to give her bread 
>pudding in case 
>>I'm wrong.  You won't believe how many things have gluten and 
>cassein.  
>>Gluten is not naturally found in corn, but it's in corn 
>flakes.  Most soy 
>>cheeses have cassein in them  so they melt like dairy 
>cheeses.  It is very 
>>difficult to keep on such a diet,  taking all  grains out of 
>the diet would 
>>be harder still.
>>
>>Autism is a multi-genetic disorder; i.e, more than one gene 
>is involved.   
>>Latest evidence is that the genes express themselves about  
>the first month 
>>of pregnancy.  In the future it will be detectable via 
>amniocentesis, much 
>>like trisomy 13  is today.  For a parent it becomes 
>noticeable somewhere 
>>between 15 months and two years.
>>
>>So what does this have to do with cassein and gluten.  There are 
>>double-blind  studies which indicate some children do better  
>on such a 
>>diet.
>>
>>
>>I like to think the experience has made me a better person.  
>Before, when a 
>>developmentally-disabled child walked into a room I'd act 
>like the kid was 
>>contagious.
>>
>>
>>Ian MacGregor
>>Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:12 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:36 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>Blah, I did not work my way to the top of the food chain to be a 
>>vegatarian.
>>
>>"Walking on water and developing software from a 
>specification are easy if
>>both are frozen."
>>
>>Christopher R. Spence
>>Oracle DBA
>>Fuelspot
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:01 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>Save the animals - eat a PETAn!!!
>>
>>--Scott
>>
>>
>>love doing this:
>>PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals.
>>
>>joe
>>
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