Thanks for all the replies.  I download a copy of DVD Decrypter from
www.flexion.org.  It works great to get a
copy of the DVD on your hard drive.  Trouble is, the files are all 6-8 gig.
So they can't be put back on a 
normal CD.  Nice try anyway.  Guess I'll just buy an extra copy next time.

Ron

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The specs I gave are just that.  Specifications from the DVD MPEG group.
Most DVDs pressed today are dual-layered (due to all the extra content and
features).  You can usually see the layer switch, unless you have a second
or third generation DVD player (they have large buffers for this).  I can
always tell where it is becuase my receiver drops the audio for a second and
then re-acquires.

As for DVD-18 (18gb dual layered dual sided) discs, these are dual-layerd
flipper discs.  They are usually the ones with STANDARD pan and scan on one
side and WIDESCREEN on the other,and multiple features on both.  Some will
even put Dolby digital on one side and DTS on the other.  A good example of
a  DVD-18 disc is the early release copies of T2:Terminator 2.  This disc
has a ton of extra content, in addition to the extended movie, and was
originally put on one disc (two sides dual layered).  They used every inch
of space for that one.  However, the demand for sales was way beyond their
expectations.  And since, at the time, there was only 1 or two plants
capable of pressing dual-layered dual-sided discs, they couldn't meet
demand.  So they shifted to a 2-disc set.  That's what you'll find today.
There is a judegment call to be made on cost of 2 discs, packaging and
weight versus 1 flipper disc with not as many copies.

I haven't seen too many dual-sided dual-layered (DVD-18) discs out lately so
I don't know where the trend is headed.  I do see alot of flipper discs
(standard / widescreen) but they are usually single-layered.  I think they
try to keep the discs as simple as possible (single-layered) when they can
so all players can read them ok.  There are quite a few (Abyss, Matrix among
others) which can be troublsome in the earlier players (seamless branching
and index features).

I could go on an on (I used to work for a company which did DVD), but this
is an Oracle forum, right?  By the way, we used Informix for our database
needs.  Hey, at least they beat our Sybase...


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Spence
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:17 AM
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What dvd's are you using?  They are generally 4.7Gb per side, and 9.4Gb if
they are duel layered.

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Fuelspot



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Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:26 PM
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9gb single side dual layered.
18gb dual sided dual layered.

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Spence
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:27 PM
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It would take approximately 6-10 CD-R to handle the average DVD in full
quality. Although in poor quality they are generally only 1.2Gb from what I
have seen.

DVD can hold 5.7Gb-9Gb.

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Fuelspot



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Or you can convert them to VCD format and burn them to a regular CD-R,
although it will probably span more that one CD-R.

--Michael

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No body would show up at your door.  People copy DVD's and
videos(especially) and mostly get away with it:)
KK

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Rajendra
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:52 PM
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You may be able to copy them but all the copyright or copyleft guys will be
at your doorstep by tomorrow. I have heard about and seen a 4 line perl
implementation that decodes the VOBs to hard disk, but then you need large
disk space as well.

A DVD RAM drive would help though ....

Raj
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