Over here in the UK, we have our children done in two stages. They have the
first at around 4 months, then go back 2/3 months later for the second.

There was actually a story on the news a week or so back about a doctor
being had up for offering the choice to parents to have the jab "all in
one". These parents actually proferred to have the shots at the same time..

I am also just like you Linda, both me and my partner took our little girl
to have her shots. Though she cried for only a couple of minutes or so - it
is still hard to watch somebody inflict pain on your little bundle of joy..

Mark

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Linda,

I don't mean to be flippant but I am almost positive in about 13-16 years in
the future there will be times when you will look back on those moments with
EXTREME fondness

Lee


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Thanks for the link.   As a new parent of a 4 month old, I am always looking
for things to read about newborns.

Some Health centers (Long Beach, CA) are now requiring children to have TB
shots before they can be entered into day care.  My pediatrician refuses
(thankfully) to do it before 6 months even if they have been exposed to the
virus because of the potential side effects.

It is really hard to see my 4 month old get three shots (they won't split
them up I asked) at one time.  His little legs are so bruised afterwards.
It takes him a week to get back to normal.  But often the benefits outweigh
the risks.  Just be aware of the side effects and watch them like a hawk.  I
get up several times a night for several days after the shots to check my
babies color, breathing and temperature.  Better neurotic than sorry.

My husband and I both go on vaccination day, so one can comfort the baby on
the way home while the other drives.  I read somewhere that a doctor
actually said they don't feel that much pain.  He should have seen my babies
legs and heard him scream.

This is probably one of the worst things about being a parent.

kathy

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As having a few chicken pox scars (luckily in areas that are not seen) I
understand this some.

The vaccine also prevents Shingles later in life.  Shingles normally happens
in older people where your immune system is stressed/suppressed.  It is
quite painful.  Even though I am not very old, I have experienced Shingles
and it ain't fun.

Both Shingles and Chicken Pox are forms of the Herpes Virus.  Cannot
remember which simplex, but not symplex 10 I'm sure.  And not the same
symplex as your STD type Herpes.

And if you live in Virginia, it's state law that children are immunized
against Chicken Pox.  Before age 3 I believe.




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There is a whole new class of vaccines the drug companies are pushing
that are supposed to prevent generally non-life-threatening illnesses
like Chicken Pox.  Merck's Chicken Pox vaccine ad is particularly
heinous, as it promotes the vaccine as preventing cosmetic blemishes
that result from Chicken Pox.

Another in a long line of medicines for healthy people with unknown
long-term effects.

If you are interested in Vaccine safety and dangers, there is an
organization devoted to the subject:

National Vaccine Information Center
http://www.909shot.com
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