Lisa, we have to go batty, part of being a parent.
One who is 40 next jan with an 11 and 5 year old, with an 8 month old
tagging along, am i insane??????
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Subject: RE: OT - Vaccines
actually, while the overall rate may well have
dropped, the
US has an ABHORRENT record in
this department:
Read this and *weep*
http://www.aihw.gov.au/publications/health/ihhac/ihhac-c05d.pdf
Note, also, that MOST of the reduction in IMR have
NOTHING to
do with vaccines...most of them
have to do with congenital
defects...perinatal complications...etc.
In fact, SIDS may be *directly correlated* to
increased vaccination:
A quote:
* In 1950, before mass vaccination began, the USA
had the third lowest
infant
mortality
rate in the world. By 1986, the USA dropped to 17th place.
By 1995,
there were 23 countries ahead of
the USA, by now world renowned for
its
appalling infant mortality. The
greatest percentage of these deaths
is from
Sudden
Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). The link between vaccination and SIDS
is
indisputable
http://hometown.aol.com/drdawndc/cdab.htm
SIDS is not easy to cure with Infant Tylenol.
Happily, at least one country thinks it has a
solution:
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/199x/hattersley-jg-j_orthomol_med-199
3-v8-n4-p229.htm
A quote: "(2) Crib deaths nearly disappeared in
Japan in 1975 when first
inoculations were
postponed until the 24th month of life."
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sicker? possibly. But the infant mortality rate has
dropped.
>From: "Babette Turner-Underwood"
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>Date: Fri, 17 Aug
2001 05:36:53 -0800
>
>I wonder if there is a link between all of these
vaccines
>that are forced upon our
children and the increase in
>childhood
illnesses, such as asthma and allergies
>and ADHD and ...??
>
>Something has changed. With our new improved
health
>care system, I believe on
average children are sicker
>than they
were 20 or 30 years ago.
>
>- babette
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>yikes.....the
immune system is fabulously complex....second in complexity
>only to the brain itself...and it is still very very
much in development
>at early
ages...this is why kids -- all kids -- get more colds, etc than
>us older folks...the system is literally
"learning" for the first few years
>or
more.
>
>Pounding this system with "new" vaccines...before it is developed,
or fully
>able
>to defend itself ( vaccines ARE basically hobbled
diseases, folks ) is
>really
>scary to me.
>
>Also, remember...you and I
may get chicken pox ( i did, and mumps...) but
>we get it by host to host contact...NOT by *intravenous
injection*
>directly
>into the bloodstream where orders of magnitude
more of disease vectors are
>introduced
into the body than if they had to pass through the skin or
>mucosal linings....
>
>just a thought.....
>
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>
>Give the kid some baby motrin or baby tylenol
prior to the shot. Works
>wonders. I've got two who just got a round of vaccinations
this week.
>
>Scott Shafer
>San Antonio,
TX
>
>
>Kathy Duret wrote:
> >
>
> Thanks for the link. As a new parent of a 4 month old, I am
always
>looking for things to read about
newborns.
> >
> > Some Health centers (Long Beach, CA) are now
requiring children to have
>TB
>shots before they can be entered into day
care. My pediatrician refuses
>(thankfully) to do it before 6 months even if they have been
exposed to the
>virus because of the
potential side effects.
> >
> > It is really hard to see my 4 month old
get three shots (they won't
>split
>them up I asked) at
one time. His little legs are so bruised afterwards.
>It takes him a week to get back to normal. But
often the benefits outweigh
>the
risks. Just be aware of the side effects and watch them like a
hawk.
>I
>get up several times a night for several days after the
shots to check my
>babies color,
breathing and temperature. Better neurotic than sorry.
> >
> > My
husband and I both go on vaccination day, so one can comfort the baby
>on the way home while the other drives.
I read somewhere that a doctor
>actually
said they don't feel that much pain. He should have seen my
>babies
>legs and heard him scream.
>
>
> > This is probably one of the
worst things about being a parent.
>
>
> > kathy
> >
> >
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> > As having a few
chicken pox scars (luckily in areas that are not seen) I
>understand this some.
> >
> > The vaccine also
prevents Shingles later in life. Shingles normally
>happens in older people where your immune system is
stressed/suppressed.
>It
>is quite painful. Even though I am not
very old, I have experienced
>Shingles
and it ain't fun.
> >
> > Both Shingles and Chicken Pox are forms
of the Herpes Virus. Cannot
>remember which simplex, but not symplex 10 I'm sure. And not
the same
>symplex as your STD type
Herpes.
> >
> > And if you live in Virginia, it's state law that
children are immunized
>against Chicken
Pox. Before age 3 I believe.
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> > There is a whole new class
of vaccines the drug companies are pushing
> > that are supposed to prevent generally non-life-threatening
illnesses
> > like Chicken Pox.
Merck's Chicken Pox vaccine ad is particularly
> > heinous, as it promotes the vaccine as preventing cosmetic
blemishes
> > that result from
Chicken Pox.
> >
> > Another in a long line of medicines for healthy
people with unknown
>long-term
effects.
> >
> > If you are interested in Vaccine safety and
dangers, there is an
> > organization
devoted to the subject:
> >
> > National Vaccine Information
Center
> > http://www.909shot.com
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