The scary part is that it is (was I guess), a very low-concurrency fledgling
datawarehouse-type instance.  The rest of our shop is very high-transaction
oltp.

Still, I just chalk it up to a lesson learned.  It was built out on 9i as an
opportunity to try out 9i.

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To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:36 PM


so if more than one person selects from a given object, you die?

they aren't particularly forthcoming on what the bug really is.


>From: "George Schlossnagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: database upgrade policy?
>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:16:02 -0800
>
>Sure.  We seemed to be suffering from bug 1904199 or a variant.  We
>experienced frequent deadlocks on resources:
>
>Sat Aug 4 08:03:21 2001
>Errors in file /opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:
>ORA-00060: deadlock detected while waiting for resource
>Sat Aug 4 08:03:25 2001
>Errors in file /opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:
>ORA-00060: deadlock detected while waiting for resource
>Sat Aug 4 08:03:29 2001
>Errors in file /opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:
>ORA-00060: deadlock detected while waiting for resource
>Sat Aug 4 08:03:34 2001
>Errors in file /opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:
>ORA-00060: deadlock detected while waiting for resource
>Sat Aug 4 08:03:38 2001
>Errors in file /opt/db/oracle/admin/report/bdump/report_smon_13262.trc:
>
>followed by 7445s and 600s and then SMON terminating
>
>After one of these crashes, we were unable to reopen the database:
>
>
>Then one day on trying to reopen the database following
>
>Errors in file /opt/db/oracle/admin/report/udump/report_ora_14226.trc:
>ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kteoprpect-1], [2], [1], [],
>[], [], [], []
>Sun Aug 12 21:38:45 2001
>Errors in file /opt/db/oracle/admin/report/udump/report_ora_14226.trc:
>ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kteoprpect-1], [2], [1], [],
>[], [], [], []
>Sun Aug 12 21:38:45 2001
>Error 600 happened during db open, shutting down database
>USER: terminating instance due to error 600
>Instance terminated by USER, pid = 14226
>ORA-1092 signalled during: alter database open...
>
>Our support analysts saud that a fix was in progress and that there was no
>known way to recover, even an ALTER DATABASE OPEN RESETLOGS.  A choice
>tidbit from the bug report:
>
>"This could be quite serious for customers as there is no simple way out of
>this scenario."
>
>Buyer beware.
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: JOE TESTA
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: database upgrade policy?
>
>
>   George, are you willing to expand on what it was, for the rest of us?
>
>   joe
>
>
>   >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/23/01 02:52PM >>>
>   We just had a total database lost under 9i.  Known bug, no workaround,
>   better-luck-next-time type situation.  Luckily for us we were testing it
>on
>   a non-critical database, but that puts me off it for a while.
>
>   George
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:27 PM
>
>
>   Good for you, David.  We are moving in that direction, too.  I convince
>   people by saying 9i is really 8.2.
>
>   Paul Baumgartel
>   MortgageSight Holdings, LLC
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:41 PM
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>   Okay, I know some of you are going to call me crazy but here goes...
>
>   **We're now using 9i in Production**
>
>   There, I admit it.  But I have to ask you this- do you think 9i will be
>more
>   buggy than the 8.1.6 that we were running that was causing core dumps,
>   referential integrity violations, etc.?  I'm betting that 9i will be at
>   least a little bit better than that.  Performance should be better too.
>
>   I'll report back any gotchas (there are bound to be some!).
>
>
>   david
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:46 AM
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>   Paul,
>           No it's more like, "Hey, I heard there is a new version of the
>   database
>   out, do we have it yet?  Why not?  Can we have it?  Yeah let's do it,
>that
>   would be cool.  Oh and by the way I installed a beta service pack on my
>   machine, that's ok right?"...crap like that:)
>   KK
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 6:56 PM
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>   Kevin,
>
>   What do you mean?
>   (running 8.1.7.2.1 on the destructo box, 8.1.7.1.5 on the development
>box,
>   W2K Pro)
>
>   Paul
>
>
>   -------- Original Message --------
>   Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:06:39 -0800
>   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   I have people here who just want to upgrade for the sake of
>   upgrading...rriiiiggghhhhtttt..ok.:)
>   KK
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:01 PM
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>   Well, we wanted to upgrade from 8.0.4 to 8.1.6 last year because it had
>   been
>   desupported.  We got most of the machines upgraded except for the main
>   production machine.  I wanted to upgrade that last September.  I have
>   finally gotten permission to tentatively schedule the for next month
>   (one
>   year later), just in time for the 8.1.6 desupport notice.  Sigh.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:36 PM
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>   Lisa,
>   You need some work to do....
>   Certifiable Gimp Monkey?? Stub you toe while swinging on the trapeze?
>   ROR mô¿ôm
>
>   >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/22/01 12:45PM >>>
>   Don't upgrade unless there is a very good reason.
>
>   All of these are candidates
>
>   1.  current oracle version is unstable
>   2.  specific bug addressed by an upgrade/patch, as identified by support
>   3.  need to utilize new feature
>   4.  desupport date coming up.
>
>   If it works, don't fix it!
>
>   Don't do it just for fun.  Because it can turn into HELL.
>
>   Lisa Koivu
>   Certifiable Gimp Monkey (and DBA)
>   Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
>
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: Mark Marsden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:45
>   > To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>   > Subject:      database upgrade policy?
>   >
>   > Hi Listers
>   >
>   > I'm on 8.1.6.0.0 and wondering about upgrading to 8.1.6.3.1(?)
>   > as I get the occasional ORA-600/ORA-7445.
>   >
>   > Do you upgrade to the latest subversion as a matter of policy
>   > (and not test very much) to prevent possible errors
>   > or only upgrade if you have problems?
>   >
>   > Do you upgrade to major versions (7 to 8.0 to 8.1) for increased
>   > functionality, cos Oracle are desupporting (the main reason we
>upgrade)
>   > or to improve the CV ;-)  with the possible downside of instability.
>   >
>   > Mark.
>   >
>   >
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