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Absolutely!  Every loop must have an exit!

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> !! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!
>
> corollary to rule 2
>
> after a certain point, just stop. It ain't worth it anymore.
>
>
> >From: Christopher Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: I/O Performance/bottlenecks on EMC Symmetrix
> >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:45:20 -0800
> >
> >Rules of tuning databases.
> >
> >1. There is always a bottleneck.
> >2. Once you solve the bottle neck, refer to rule number 1.
> >
> >"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
> >when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."
> >Christopher R. Spence
> >Oracle DBA
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:01 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >At one site I worked using Oracle Financials we were having serious
> >performance problems at what seemed to us random intervals. Spent months
> >looking at the database after the Unix boys had said that there was no way
> >we could have I/O problems with the throughput capabililities of EMC and
> >the
> >Symetrix set up we had.
> >Eventually turned out that 3 systems were sharing the same disks and the
> >disks had not been striped. Therefore other system were causing us
> >performance problems.
> >If you have an EMC support contract which I think you must have you, the
> >SA's get all the free GUI tools that allow them to look at channels and
> >logical/physical layout. Ask them about.
> >John
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> >Sent: 13 September 01 12:55
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> >
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> >Hi All,
> >
> >Does anybody here on the list have experience with EMC/symmetrix storage
> >units.?
> >We have our databases on this machine and I have a feeling the the I/O
> >performance is not very good. I can not proof it since I do not have any
> >experience/data/access to that machine. We do however have a very
> >cooperative UNIX group but they also lack experience with performance on
> >this machine.
> >Who can give me pointers about I/O throughput that can be reached,
> >configuration pittfalls etc..
> >Example:
> >RS6000 8CPU's and 4Gb memory with storage on EMC/symmetrix. Job takes about
> >2 hours to complete.
> >F50 1 CPU 1Gb memory (TEST machine) local disks. same job takes 0.5 hours
> >to complete.
> >
> >Jack
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