Well one advantage to playing with the listener is if you have to test an application which connects from a client. We have some applications where there is no direct connection to the server; everything is through the listener. We can change ports on the listener and tnsnames.ora to allow just a privileged subset to use the application.
 
Henry
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ok i give, what is the difference between
 
1.  shutting down a listener
2.  alter database enable restricted session where only the DBAs have restricted session.
 
and without a listener, the local connected people can still connect to the database, so you've only stoppped remote connections by stopping the listener.
 
 
joe


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True.  However, I find it useful to have one listener per instance so that
I can restrict access to an instance without having to alter the database.


                                                                                          
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No.. Not necessary for more listeners.
One listener is enough to listen many servers.

Nirmal.

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> I'm sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong but:
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> The database is the physical datafiles laid out on the storage devices -
> hard disks;
> The instance is the logical constructions (SGA) that exist, hopefully, in
> RAM;
> The services are the NT operating system equivalent of UNIX processes
> which
> run the Oracle engine against the instance to access the database.
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> In theory, an instance could be used to access multiple databases;
> however,
> in practice, DBAs set up one instance that will be used to access one
> database (and no other database).
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> Also, databases could, in theory, be accessed from multiple instances;
> however, in practice, DBAs set up a database to be accessed from only one
> instance (and no other instance).
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> Microsoft NT sets up the service so that it executes against one, given
> instance.  However, NT will allow multiple services.
>
> So, you can have two databases, two instances, and two services on the
> same
> NT server.  You'll also need two listeners and two services to run those
> listeners.
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> You'll probably need to read the manuals for the exact details.
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> In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
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> Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same
server?.
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> Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the
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> Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.
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