I didn't say it was perfect. I just said that it worked. (grin)
If they insist on no physical contact then there are certain consequences,
including network traffic being hosed during installs. This is also how I
would install the client on users' workstations.
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Last time we tried an install from a remote CD it took about 4 times longer
to complete.
Ron
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It's been a while but as I remember, for WinNT 4.0, I used to use the
windows network to log in to the server, put the CD-ROM in my workstation,
mount that on the server as a network drive, and do the GUI install. This
worked with 8.1.4.
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Are you talking NT only or install in general? On unix all you need is a
decent X-windows package for your PC (Exceed, ChameleonX, Reflection X?,
etc).
I've been here 3 years, installed at least 30 new systems and have never
been in any of our computer rooms.
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OK, terminal services?
I agree that install is an exception. It's nearly impossible if you
aren't sitting in front of the host.
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This doesn't work for NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install
8.1.6 without X access.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that
way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their
shoes."
Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
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What's wrong with telnetting in?
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-- "Smith, Ron L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Our hardware people are cracking sown on access to the computer room.
> They have decided the DBA group can do all their work without going
to
> the server itself. This includes Unix and NT server running both
Oracle
> and SQL Server. We would have to use VNC Viewer and PC Anywhere. I
am
> trying to put together a list of things we might need to do that
would
> make remote admin difficult as well as taking longer. If you have
any
> ideas I would appreciate it.
How about "Your Work"?
Last time I looked it's rather hard to run svrmgrl without access to
the command line. So long as you don't want to start or stop the
database this probably won't have any effect.
Checking free disk space is also simpler with "df". You can, perhaps,
memorize the nubmber of blocks on every device and compare them to the
free space reported by Oracle each morning.
Simplest method would be to say "no we don't need it now, what is the
pager number of someone we can use if we do need things done?" Make
a point of paging them every time you need something from the shell,
day or night. That person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a list
of the trivial things they've been forced to do that the DBA should
have
done for themselves at 3am...
--
Steven Lembark 2930 W.
Palmer
Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL
60647
+1 800 762
1582
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