If I understand you correctly, you are shutting down a
listener on your NT box, and then, from your NT box, you are
connecting to a remote database using SQL*Plus. Am I
understanding you correctly?

You shouldn't need to have a listener running on your NT box
to connect to a remote database, so that fact that SQL*Plus
can connect doesn't surprise me. I don't understand why your
GUI tools wouldn't connect, though I may also be
misunderstanding your original note.

Best regards,

Jonathan Gennick   
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Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 10:05:20 AM, you wrote:
BPJ> I noticed that if I leave the TNS Listener service stopped on my NT
BPJ> workstation, I can't access anything using the GUI tools.

BPJ> But my script that runs command line can successfully login to the remote
BPJ> databases to verify that they are accessible.  It uses
BPJ> c:\oracle\ora81\bin\sqlplus.exe.

BPJ> Do the command-line utilities bypass the NT TNSListener service?

BPJ> Just curious, I am leaving the service up now...

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