Does anybody else get the same feeling as me that it is not that vendors are
ignoring proper data models, they don't even know what they are.

Henry

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Unfortunately it's the case way too often. Even at the enlightened place
where I work, our RI is done at the application level. 

Not much I can do about it. Our development is done on MySQL and then
"ported" to Oracle.

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana, USA

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<RANT MODE>

BAH!! These bloody application providers leaving the integrity to their
bloody applications instead of leaving it in it's rightful place in the
database!!! Makes my life 10 times harder!!! Got no consideration at all
have they?

</RANT MODE>

:P

Thanks!

Mark

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We use Siebel and no it does NOT have RI.




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Hi Gang,

Does anybody use Siebel - I believe it's a CRM package?

I'm trying to find out of the Siebel application enforces RI within the
database or the application? Anybody know?

Cheers

Mark

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