There may be some solutions available at the hardware level as well..

For example-SRDF on an EMC cabinet... and define the online redo
logs/archive logs as part of the data transfer.. But there are performance
problems with that as well.....

greg

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If you want to Zero data loss in standby you can copy the online redo logs
thru an external C program.  You can copy the online redo log files when
the LGWR is writing to it.

The program should read the log files without locking. You can use the fixed
table  X$KCCLE and X$KCCCP to find how much is written in the log files.
The partially filled log file  can be shipped to the standby location and
you can
open the standby database with the new control file created with NORESETLOGs
.

In this way you have a graceful fail over in the standby database and no
committed
Transaction is lost in the standby database

Does this sound good?

Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
Bangalore, INDIA



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I am also facing the same problem. All these disadvantages in 8i standby DB
have been taken care of in oracle 9i version. The other solution could be to
buy an expensive Veritas Cluster server/Database edition.

Thanks,
-- Janardhana babu

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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:35 PM
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Quick question.  Is it a fair statement to say that using Oracle's hot
standby database allows you recoverability up to the last archive log, but
would NOT recover to the latest redo log (prior to a log switch).  In other
words, the potential to lose transactions is very high if you depend on this
for failover (not good for e-commerce type databases).  Would it be possible
to somehow mirror redo logs across to the failover server and apply them
when activating the standby database, or is the only real solution
clustering or something like DoubleTake?

Am I making sense?

Thanks,

Ed


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