Charlie,

You must first put your database in ArchiveLog mode, of course.  The basic
init.ora parameters to set and the command "Alter Database ArchiveLog"
(while mounted, but not open, after a clean shutdown) haven't really changed
from 7 to 8 to 8i, except now you can specify archive log duplexing.

A simple SQL script might get you started.
For each Tablespace:

Alter Tablespace <TS1> Begin Backup ;
Host cp <source_directory>/ts1_datafile_1.dbf <target>
Host cp <source_directory>/ts1_datafile_2.dbf <target>
...
Alter Tablespace <TS1> End Backup ;
...

Save the datafile copies and your archived redo logs, as well as backup
control files, and you've got it covered.  Oh, and don't back up your online
redo logs - they'll be worthless for a recovery and can cause you grief if
you restore them over your current, good, ones.

Jack

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Mengler
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:29 PM
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I'm not sure if I'm bragging or complaining, but I've never setup
or supported online backups for Oracle. I'm being directed to
implement online backups for a V7.3.4.5 instance. A search of
OTN reveals that Oracle no longer seems to have any V7 documents
available anymore. :-(

Since this DB is stuck at V7.3.4.5 for at least 6 more months,
I need to get online backups operational without using RMAN.
If somebody who has *nix shell script(s) or Perl code that
implements online backups, I'd appreciate if you would send a
copy my way. I'm just looking for something to get me started.

TIA & HAND!

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