I think even Oracle would disagree with you on that one.  While it
is unsupported to change anything in the sql.bsq script (except with
Trusted Oracle where its required to actually get it to create a database)
anything that
is changeable after the fact is fair game.  As a matter of fact,
for all those GUI freaks out there;-) its one of the things you actually
get to change when creating the SYSTEM tablespace using dbassist.
Oracle had to pick a default so they chose 50.  They also chose a
default for the SGA but up until now it was pretty much a useless
default.  No where do they say that 50 for pctincrease is recommended
or that it should stay that way.  Don't forget, this is not
SQL Server.  We are encouraged by Oracle to set the system up
for optimal performance.

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Thomas F
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:30 AM
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Kimberly,

I would agree with you if an experienced DBA makes the decision to change
the storage parameters, and they absolutely know what the benfits would be.

Generally speaking though, I think changing anything in the SYSTEM
tablespace is bad practice.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Actually, I would not ignore the storage parameters of the SYSTEM
tablespace.
There are legit reasons to change the pctincrease to 0.  If you leave it at
50 then SMON (or PMON can't remember at the moment) will try to coalesce the
tablespace every time it wakes up.  Its work it has to do that it really
does
not need to do.  Better off scheduling to happen at your time schedule.

-----Original Message-----
Thomas F
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:45 AM
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Ken,

Do yourself a favor.  Ignore the SYSTEM tablespace storage params.  The ONLY
thing you should concern yourself in regard with the SYSTEM tablespace is if
the file needs to extend itself because it is too full.  All other storage
parameters are created by Oracle at database create time and should not be
changed.

For other tablespaces, you can change this parameter anytime after the
tablespace has been created.  It will not, however, change existing extents,
but will be used when new extents are allocated.

Hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:16 AM
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Is there any way that I can change the PCTINCREASE for the SYSTEM tablespace
without recreating the DB?  For some reason the person who created the DB I
am working on set PCTINCREASE to 50 (or didn't did not include this
parameter).    I am using this DB for a data conversion so there is no
software connected to it and in turn no users on it.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
Database Conversion Lead
Sufficient Systems, Inc.
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