Straight from the Camels mouth, 2nd edition:

laziness

     The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy
expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people
will find
     useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so
many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
Also
     hence, this book. See also impatience and hubris.

impatience

     The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you
write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate
them. Or
     at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a
programmer. See also laziness and hubris.

hubris

     Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality
that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want
to say
     bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. See
also laziness and impatience.

There's certainly no shortage of that last one around here.

Oh,  and this really is on topic.  Think of it as a self-improvement course
for DBA's

Jared




                                                                                       
                             
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I agree with larry wall on the laziness of programmers (and DBAs, by
association?) is a virtue......



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Naaah, I'm just the proverbial lazy DBA. Gene received many replies,
including "it can't be done". Since he happened to point out that two of
them worked and produced the same results (an excellent sanity check), I
thought it would benefit everyone by telling us which ones worked. I
realize
that we could have each tried each of the strategies and discovered the two
for ourselves, but my principle is if there is an easier way, why not?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Uh, amen. Isn't that the purpose of the list?

Or is there a *third* list, one "on topic", a second
"off topic", and a third where all the answers really
are?

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Gene - Now that you've gotten your answer, would you mind to post both of
the methods that you found to work so that the rest of us could learn?
Thanks.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi.

This is just to thank all who replied to my post.
Based on what I read, I have got two different ways of
calculating that number and they seem to produce the
same result.

thank you all (you know who you are)!!!!


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