I think that you just run into :
RAIC: Redundant Array of Independent Consultants.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohan, Ross [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wed, January 16, 2002 2:01 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:      RE: SAME, WAFL and RAID
> 
> Yea, they were talking about clustering all right. 
>  
> sure
> uh huh
> right 
> Whatever!
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Deshpande, Kirti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:26 PM
>       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>       Subject: RE: SAME, WAFL and RAID
>       
>       
>       New one I heard at our local Oracle office :
> 
>        RAIP = Redundant Array of Independent Processors
>        
>        (Those guys were talking about NT Clustering... )
>        
>        
>        
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Mohan, Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:41 PM
>       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>       Subject: RE: SAME, WAFL and RAID
>       
>       
>       SAME = 'stripe and mirror everthing'
>       BHT = 'butylated hydroxytoluene'
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Deshpande, Kirti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:29 PM
>               To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>               Subject: RE: SAME, WAFL and RAID
>               
>               
>               Great ! Thanks for the info..
>                
>               - Kirti
>                
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Nick Wagner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:49 PM
>               To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>               Subject: RE: SAME, WAFL and RAID
>               
>               
> 
>               good question...  RAID and WALF -- see below.   SAME... no
> idea... 
> 
>               RAID - (from
> <http://www.uni-mainz.de/~neuffer/scsi/what_is_raid.html> ) 
>               What does RAID stand for ? 
>               In 1987, Patterson, Gibson and Katz at the University of
> California Berkeley, published a paper entitled "A Case for Redundant
> Arrays of Inexpensive Disks (RAID)" . This paper described various types
> of disk arrays, referred to by the acronym RAID. The basic idea of RAID
> was to combine multiple small, inexpensive disk drives into an array of
> disk drives which yields performance exceeding that of a Single Large
> Expensive Drive (SLED). Additionally, this array of drives appears to the
> computer as a single logical storage unit or drive.
> 
>               The Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) of the array will be
> equal to the MTBF of an individual drive, divided by the number of drives
> in the array. Because of this, the MTBF of an array of drives would be too
> low for many application requirements. However, disk arrays can be made
> fault-tolerant by redundantly storing information in various ways.
> 
>               Five types of array architectures, RAID-1 through RAID-5,
> were defined by the Berkeley paper, each providing disk fault-tolerance
> and each offering different trade-offs in features and performance. In
> addition to these five redundant array architectures, it has become
> popular to refer to a non-redundant array of disk drives as a RAID-0
> array.
> 
>               WAFL (from the NetApp website) 
>               The WAFL (Write Anywhere File Layout) file system and the
> following features deliver enterprise-class availability: 
>                       Consistency points. Always a consistent file-system
> image on disk, even after unplanned shutdowns. Virtually eliminates the
> need to run time-consuming file-system checks. 
> 
>                       Snapshot technology. Snapshots are
> near-instantaneous, transparent, read-only, online copies of the active
> file systems. Up to 31 Snapshots can be maintained for each data volume.
> Users can quickly recover deleted or modified files without administrative
> assistance or restore from tape backup. The Snapshot function requires
> minimal disk space and causes no disruption of service. Snapshots can be
> backed up to other media while users are modifying the active file system
> to minimize business disruption. 
> 
>                       SnapRestore software. Allows any system to revert
> back to a specified data volume Snapshot for instant file-system recovery.
> Terabytes can be recovered in minutes, rather than hours, without going to
> tape. The software also greatly facilitates scenario testing as well as
> providing disaster recovery and virus protection. 
> 
>               Easy, cost-effective clustering. Safeguards against hardware
> failures by automatic filer takeover. Gives users continuous access to
> data. 
> 
>               SnapMirror software. Provides remote mirroring at high
> speeds over a LAN or WAN. The asynchronous mirroring can be used for
> disaster recovery, replication, backup, or testing on a nonproduction
> system. 
> 
>               -----Original Message----- 
>               From: Deshpande, Kirti [
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] 
>               Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:23 PM 
>               To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
>               Subject: RE: SAME, WAFL and RAID 
> 
> 
>               Good idea.. 
> 
>               All I know about WAFL is the House where breakfast is served
> ;) 
> 
>               - Kirti 
> 
>               -----Original Message----- 
>               Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:57 PM 
>               To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
> 
> 
>               May I make a suggestion?  It would be helpful if posters
> would expand 
>               acronyms the first time they use them.  I, at least, have no
> idea what 
>               WAFL is.  Thanks. 
> 
> 
>               --- Bill Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>               > Hello, 
>               > 
>               > I am looking for any pointers to white papers, etc. 
>               > that discuss the differences/similarities among 
>               > WAFL, SAME and RAID 
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