Reed,

Please reply to the list as well.

I don't seen any key information here.

And taking a closer I caught the part about this join
being done on views.

Joining views can be problemetic.  You need to ensure
that the joins in a view ( if any ) are correct, and that all
columns of the primary key are available from the view.

These columns then need to be used to fully qualify
the join.

Jared



                                                                                       
                             
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Jared,

Thanks for the quick response.  Here is some more information.  The problem
is that the query is taking 1.6 seconds to complete when I think it should
take milliseconds to complete.

Here are the structures of the 2 tables.  I check my indexes and keys and
all appear to OK.

desc si_monitor (the interface_id is a foreign key)  This table has 1500
rows in it and does not grow that fast.
 Name                                      Null?    Type
 ----------------------------------------- --------
----------------------------
 INTERFACE_ID                                       NUMBER(10)
 ERROR_CHECK                                        VARCHAR2(1)
 ERROR_TIME                                         DATE
 MONITOR                                            VARCHAR2(1)
 TIMEOUT_VAL                                        NUMBER(3)
 BROKEN_OK                                          VARCHAR2(1)

desc sm_log_type (the error_type_id is the primary key)  This table has a
static 14 rows in it.
 Name                                      Null?    Type
 ----------------------------------------- --------
----------------------------
 ERROR_TYPE_ID                             NOT NULL NUMBER(8)
 SHORTNAME                                 NOT NULL VARCHAR2(30)
 WARN_TIME                                          NUMBER
 ERROR_TIME                                         NUMBER
 WARN_EMAIL                                         VARCHAR2(4000)
 ERROR_EMAIL                                        VARCHAR2(4000)
 WARN_TEXT                                          VARCHAR2(4000)
 ERROR_TEXT                                         VARCHAR2(4000)
 WARN                                               VARCHAR2(1)
 F_WARN                                             VARCHAR2(1)
 DESCRIPTION                                        VARCHAR2(250)

Thanks again.

ReedK

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It's impossible to precisely determine where the cartesian
product is coming from with out knowing the primary keys
of the si_monitor and sm_log_type slt tables.

If your join does not include all columns
of the parent table(s), there is the possibility
of a cartesian product. ( it's data dependant )

Jared






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Hello gurus,

I have a query which seems to have a mystery cartesian join in it and I
can't seem to locate it.  I would definitely appreciate some help if
possible.  My view doesn't have a join associated with it and it appears
that I have the correct number of joins for the number of tables I am
selecting from.  I have also recently rebuilt my indexes and analyzed all
tables. One other point is that I am joining across schemas by way of
synonyms.  The si_monitor table resides in a separate schema.  Hmmmm?

Here is my query:

SELECT vslfl.error_type_id error_type_id,
        vslfl.interface_id,
        sm.error_check,
       86400 * (sysdate - sm.error_time) err_secs,
        slt.warn,
        slt.shortname
    FROM v_si_last_faq_log vslfl,
        si_monitor sm,
        sm_log_type slt
    WHERE vslfl.interface_id = sm.interface_id
    AND vslfl.error_type_id = slt.error_type_id
    AND vslfl.interface_id = 1
/

Here is the output from the tkprof:

SELECT vslfl.error_type_id error_type_id,
        vslfl.interface_id,
        sm.error_check,
       :"SYS_B_0" * (sysdate - sm.error_time) err_secs,
        slt.warn,
        slt.shortname
    FROM v_si_last_faq_log vslfl,
        si_monitor sm,
        sm_log_type slt
    WHERE vslfl.interface_id = sm.interface_id
    AND vslfl.error_type_id = slt.error_type_id
    AND vslfl.interface_id = :"SYS_B_1"

call     count       cpu    elapsed       disk      query    current
rows
------- ------  -------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
----------
Parse        1      0.00       0.00          0          0          0
0
Execute      1      0.00       0.00          0          0          0
0
Fetch        2      0.71       1.68       3114       3540          4
1
------- ------  -------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
----------
total        4      0.71       1.68       3114       3540          4
1

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 18  (SITEMON)

Rows     Row Source Operation
-------  ---------------------------------------------------
      1  NESTED LOOPS
      2   MERGE JOIN CARTESIAN
      2    VIEW V_SI_LAST_FAQ_LOG
      2     SORT ORDER BY
      1      TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID SI_LOG
   3629       INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 3281)
      2    SORT JOIN
      1     TABLE ACCESS FULL SI_MONITOR
      1   TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID SM_LOG_TYPE
      2    INDEX UNIQUE SCAN (object id 3318)


Rows     Execution Plan
-------  ---------------------------------------------------
      0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
      1   NESTED LOOPS
      2    MERGE JOIN (CARTESIAN)
      2     VIEW OF 'V_SI_LAST_FAQ_LOG'
      2      SORT (ORDER BY)
      1       TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX ROWID) OF
                  'SI_LOG'
   3629        INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
                   'SI_LOG_INT_IDX' (NON-UNIQUE)
      2     SORT (JOIN)
      1      TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL) OF 'SI_MONITOR'
      1    TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX ROWID) OF
               'SM_LOG_TYPE'
      2     INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'SM_LOG_TYPE_PK'
                (UNIQUE)

Here is the syntax from my view (v_si_last_faq_log):

SELECT error_id last_error_id,
        interface_id,
        error_type_id,
        ewhen,
        request_time
FROM si_log
WHERE last_faq_log = 'Y'
ORDER BY error_id
/

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in Advance

ReedK
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