JoJo,

sorry -- but truncating does "delete" the data because as far as Oracle
is concerned, if you do a select count(*) from the table after a
delete, you will get 0 rows returned.

Cursors do not have anything to do with the location of the end of a
table, they are a programming construct

Rachel

--- JoJo Al-Zawawi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a complete newbie, so I may be off-base here, but I believe that
> truncating a table does not delete any data from the table.  It moves
> the
> cursor up, thereby closing up the "empty space" where data has
> previously
> been deleted.
> 
> --JoJo
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:46 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> To our resident Oracle Expert who just 6 months (July 26 2001) ago
> posted
> the following e-mail
> 
> 
> If I remember rightly, deleting rows from the table does NOT free up
> tablespace. In order to do that you have to trunctate the table
> (although
> this of course deletes all data from the table)...I can't for the
> life of me
> remember how you adjust the space the table is actually using after
> doing a
> delete...(to everyone else) would an analyze work?
> 
> Kev.
> 
> "would and analyze work", leave it out kev(or thomas), my sides are
> splitting Im laughing that much"
> "Dude you really are a sage"
> I agree dude, you tell them beginners how u became such an expert in
> 6
> months and didn't come out with stupid ****** comments like above,
> and dude,
> explain more about this defrag,space adjusting tool "the analyze
> command":
> 
> Unfortunately I only got dragged into this because I just saw one of
> your
> rude replies and I was having a bad day and didn't like your
> attitude., I
> have no idea about the guy you were slagging off as I don't get time
> to read
> all the posts, but it looks like 6 months ago you were no better than
> him,
> and nobody on the list, I recall, treated you with the contempt that
> you
> actually deserved.
> 
> As somebody on the list said "opinions are like arseholes,
> everybody's got
> one and they all stink" (classic ,classic quote):
> 
> Anyhow I rest my case Kev (or thomas):
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:12 PM
> 
> 
> > And your point caller??
> >
> > TIC ;o)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: 29 January 2002 15:41
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > No offense to anybody, but I think this is rather arrogant.  The
> list is
> for
> > anybody (unless the list owner decides it's just for experienced
> dba's). I
> > am brand new to Oracle, having just started learning it this week. 
> I can
> > easily foresee having what some might consider stupid or RTFM
> questions,
> and
> > being possibly unable to find the answer or having problems
> deciphering
> the
> > manual.  I myself am somewhat of a Word pro (and my vba code
> samples page
> is
> > the #1 ranked site of its kind on most major search engines) and I
> help
> all
> > kinds of newbies out on a Word list of which I am a member, as do
> all the
> > other members of the list.  Everybody on that list is extremely
> gracious
> and
> > nobody complains -- and the people with questions get the help they
> need,
> > with nobody sitting back going "boy are you stupid / lazy".  I am
> hoping
> > that I can get the same kind of help here, when I am ready for it,
> that I
> > and others give on other lists.
> >
> > --JoJo
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:20 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > The problem is that if you always ask the group for help, you never
> learn
> > where the information is within the manuals or other reference
> documentation
> > and the group also gets cluttered with trivia.
> >
> > I agree with you that the list is here to help people and I
> personally do
> > not mind the odd naive question from a new DBA, but it is the
> "...can't be
> > bothered to look up the manual.." attitude that is most
> frustrating.  When
> > you ask the format of a command (for example) to the list, you are
> > potentionally asking 1000's of people the same question who will
> all have
> to
> > spend the time to filter these questions - we are all busy people
> and I
> > personally do not want to use my time in this way.  I'm sure you
> can see
> > that this is a much more expensive option than asking the person
> next to
> > you.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Craig.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 2:55 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Why do you bother being on this List: The list is here to help
> fellow
> > DBA'S. Have you never said to one of your collegues , what is the
> format
> of
> > this command, or how can I do that, when you simply cant be
> bothered to
> > look it up in the manual (either your busy or just down right
> lazy):
> > Sometimes this list is useful for just that. So why dont u lighten
> up
> dude.
> >
> >
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