Good to know.  Thanks, Bambi.  <OT> How's the store going? </OT>

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

"Common sense will not accomplish great things. Simply become insane and
desperate."

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bellows, Bambi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:10 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:      Teamwork teamwork rah rah rah!
> 
> So our internal consultants from a-certain-company-we-all-know-and-love
> call
> me because one of their pages in Vision is not coming up.  Of course,
> Metalink was down, so I couldn't look into it.  I posted a question here
> to
> see if anyone ever had a similar problem.  No response, so I'm assuming
> "no"
> (or that I'm being redirected to people's trashbin due to all my
> discussions
> of life in the good old days).  Anyway, Metalink comes up, and, would you
> believe it?, go tell it on the mountain!, their app mysteriously comes up,
> at the same time.  Coincidence?  Hmm.  So, while these %@$& are sniffing
> around inside *my* beautiful, immaculate database for problems, I call
> said-same-company-we-all-know-and-love on the phone.  (I love this "we're
> all on the same team" bullsh*t.)  Seems that the Vision instance has loads
> of links to internal Oracle sites, and when Oracle went down, well.... 
>  
> Anyway, BE AWARE, if you're running Vision, about 20% of your app, by
> default, is served outside your own environment, meaning that
> approximately
> 20% of the problems you will have will be outside your control.  Oh, and
> that teamwork thing works real well when you're helping "other people", or
> when things are rosy... they don't seem to work so good when they're
> having
> problems and looking for a way to deflect blame.  Surprise, surprise,
> surprise.
> 
> Bambi.
> 
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