Geez, will you guys knock it off. Like many of you, I started on punch cards. But now my management is yammering about wanting "young Turks", and I'm trying to remind myself that I still have many youthful ideas to contribute. Your one-upmanship about who started with the most archaic form of technology isn't making me feel any better.
-----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, if you want to be nostalgic: We worked then on an IBM mainframe, 360/25, that we programmed the firmware by toggles after almost each power break. This mainframe has 28K memory that was used 24k for programs and 4K for writer. One heck of a mainframe. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sun, March 03, 2002 2:53 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Manager decrees "his" data warehouse design. Help! > > I had a teacher in college who could program the machine by flipping > the switches on the front. > > We had paper tape, a step up from the plugs :) > > > --- אדר_יחיאל <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well it was punched cards but ... > > we also had a machine that was programmed (almost beads) > > by using plugs connected by wire and inserted in various holes > > on the control panel. > > We had some control panels that make "spaghetti" look like > > a set of straight lines. > > > > Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Cupp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Fri, March 01, 2002 3:08 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Subject: RE: Manager decrees "his" data warehouse design. Help! > > > > > > 30 years? Wasn't that involved in sliding wooden beads on a metal > > stick? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:33 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > >-BTW It so happens that this month is the month that > > > >-30 years ago (1972) I started to learn computers > > > > > > Punch cards perhaps!! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:18 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > Hello Don > > > > > > You will be suprised but the folks around here usually > > > come to the dba before, after and during designing . > > > They know the value of an experienced dba (> 20 years). > > > > > > BTW It so happens that this month is the month that > > > 30 years ago (1972) I started to learn computers > > > and am doing damage since then. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: bill thater [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thu, February 28, 2002 6:13 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Subject: Re: Manager decrees "his" data warehouse design. > Help! > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > >A very true set of statements on all sides. I've done as much & > > am > > > > >in > > > > the > > > > >process once again. I just wish that once in my life as a DBA I > > did > > > > >not > > > > have to > > > > >cleanup someone else's mess. Now if you all don't mind, I'm off > > to > > > > >the > > > > hardware > > > > >store for a new shovel!! :-) > > > > > > > > > you mean they would actually consult you when the application was > > > > > > being > > > > designed, so you could help provide a design that was efficient > > and easy > > > > > > > to maintain? > > > > > > > > yea, right. not even in my dreams.;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > You gotta program like you don't need the money, > > > > You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt, > > > > You gotta run like there's nobody watching, > > > > It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Unix] is not necessarily evil, like OS/2. - Peter Norton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > > -- > > > > Author: bill thater > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) > > 538-5051 > > > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > > Lists > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > > in > > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or > > the > > > > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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