Hi Robert,

Oracle University training uses the terms online and offline and points out
that online backups can only be made to databases that are in archivelog
mode.  Offline backups can be made to either archivelog or noarchivelog
databases.

John

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>Ok.... maybe you will think this is a silly thread, but I've wondered
>about this before...
>
>We (DBA's) use the terms hot and cold backups all the time. I wonder though,
>when we talk about cold backups if the terminology should not include the
>mode of the backup:
>
>cold archivelog mode backup
>cold noarchivelog mode backup
>
>When we say "cold" backup, do we just assume it's NOARCHIVELOG mode...and
>enjoy the fact that we don't have to type or say as much...or should we be
>more specific to help the junior DBA's (or perhaps even those out there who
>have never really considered that there is a distinction between the two)
>out there? When books are written, I notice that they mostly just talk about
>hot and cold backups, assuming that the cold backup is in NOARCHIVELOG
>mode... 
>
>what about the junior DBA who does a cold backup in ARCHIVELOG mode and
>follows the standard cold backup procedure (backing up control files and
>redo logs) assuming that he can just recover them....(granted, anyone should
>test
>their backup and recovery strategy, but this is a Jr. DBA!)
>
>Just thinking aloud... is it a silly question?
>
>Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
>Oracle DBA Technical Lead
>CSX Midtier Database Administration
>
>The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can
>take his freedom away from him.
>
>


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