The problem I've had with TARs and Oracle Support in general is actually
getting a hold of someone in Oracle Support who knows what they are talking
about.  I had a TAR that I needed to explain basic DBA knowledge to the
support person.  And we're paying how much for Silver Support (or whatever
it's called these days)?

Yes, I understand the problem of trying to keep good people in a customer
support role.  It's difficult to keep them challenged and even more
difficult keeping them sane, having to talk to unruly idiots (probably
Oracle customers NOT on this list!) all day long.  I miss one analyst in
Oracle's Midrange group that really knew VMS and the subtle intricacies of
Oracle's non-OFA bastardized install on VMS.  Provided I gave him all the
pertinent info on my problem, he could give me the correct solution almost
immediately along with an explanation.  What a boring job that must have
been for him!  I hope he's on to better things now.  This isn't to say that
the current Midrange support isn't up to snuff.  I haven't had to place a
call to that group in some time.

On the flip side, when I log a TAR, it generally means something is really
out of whack and I can't find a solution on Metaclink.  I don't want to
speak (or e-converse) with a front-line specialist.  I've tried all their
solutions already.  On our contract with HP, we get a special phone number
that connects us directly to an engineer.  Our main SAs here need that.  If
it's something that needs to get called in, they've already gone thru the
front-line solutions.

What do very large companies like Amazon.com do?  Surely they don't log an
iTAR when they have a problem?  I'm guessing an Oracle analyst is onsite?

My $.02,
Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
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