Uncle Larry (and his cohorts) issue such Earth-shaking, 'Future-direction-for-IT' type pronouncements as a way of assuring themselves when they are in a hole. Hate to say it, but there are a lot of Internal Oracle 'Consultants' without projects and Oracle would like to keep them employed at $300/hour!
That said, Market forces will drive consolidations, whether in the Data Centre or Services, and the bean-counters will win in the end. Whether they are ultimately right or wrong does not matter in the 'now' - every organizations wants to show 'current profit' (which cannot be lied about, unless you are Enron and employ Arthur Andersen :) and project large profits in the future 'if we take this path'. The Internet was barely out of the Univs. about 8 years ago and look where we are now. Let's not pooh-pooh future possibilites, and instead concentrate on being prepared. In this case, I would look at Tools or technologies that would automate what I do as a DBA - whether in monitoring/fixing problems or in tuning or better automating backup/restore. For example, I would support an OEM implementation for 'point-and-click' types, but understand the SQL and scripts behind it, which will ensure that I can understand what's going on. This will make me more valuable than someone who is seen as a rebel who resists moving to new technologies and definitely more valuable than a newbie who has no clue about how OEM does what it does... John Kanagaraj Oracle Applications DBA DBSoft Inc (W): 408-970-7002 Grace - Getting something we don't deserve Mercy - NOT getting something we deserve Click on 'http://www.needhim.org' for Grace and Mercy that is freely available! ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of my employer or clients ** > -----Original Message----- > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:29 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Wants Users to Hand over Apps Management > > > Oracle has been saying for years that you wil no longer need DBAs. I > suppose it's possible, although the database gets more and more > complicated each release, as more and more new features that can shoot > themselves in the foot are added. > > On the other hand, SOMEONE will need those DBAs. Oracle? And > isn't this > just a little bit like that monopoly that Larry was so insistent on > toppling? > > > --- Mark Leith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What got me was another quote by Jeff Henley: > > > > "This is really the way most customers are going to want to have > > their > > software delivered over time. The bulk of our customers are going to > > operate > > this way in the not-too-distant future," Henley said. "We offer much > > faster > > implementation, much lower cost and much better service." > > > > Another line that says "all DBAs will be redundant in the > > not-too-distant > > future"! Are they saying that Oracle support offers a much better > > service > > and response time than a well trained DBA can? Fair enough with bug > > checking > > and alike, but how long does it take for a lot of you to get iTARS > > answered > > etc.? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Dave > > Sent: 26 March 2002 15:18 > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Another publicity blunder by Uncle Larry. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:03 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Oracle Wants Users to Hand over Apps Management > > > > > > Putting muscle behind the outsourcing model of application > > management, > > Oracle Corp. said it is starting an international campaign to > > persuade > > customers to hand over maintenance of their Oracle software. > > > > "We have decided to go in and actively go after our installed base > > and tell > > them that this is a better way to [run Oracle applications]," said > > Jeff > > Henley, Oracle's chief financial officer, speaking to financial > > analysts in > > New York yesterday. "We will put the sales guys on it and invest > > heavily in > > capacity." > > > > For full story: > > http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO69446,00.html > > > > =================================================== > > Mark Leith | T: +44 (0)1905 330 281 > > Sales & Marketing | F: +44 (0)870 127 5283 > > Cool Tools UK Ltd | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > =================================================== > > http://www.cool-tools.co.uk > > Maximising throughput & performance > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Mark Leith > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > > Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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