Thanks to Rachel, Dick, Jon, and everyone for clarifying this issue. 
The answer falls into a disturbing pattern I'm seeing in Oracle licensing --
lots of confusion, conflicting opinions, and in the end a large invoice from
Oracle.

I participated in a META Group teleconference this morning. A number of
press reporters participated also, so you will probably be seeing press
releases over the next few days. META offered pretty good proof that Oracle
is interpreting the named licensing to be that if your data warehouse is
being loaded with data from another system that has 200 users, then your
data warehouse needs that many named user licenses. 

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yep... but it's because the database is being used, even if you don't
use it for read-only.... the fact that the executables are running and
the database is mounted is why you need the license.

Now, if you have a copy of all the files, and the executables on
another machine, but DON'T run anything, THEN you don't need another
license


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> Jon,
> 
>     Wrong.  You must license the second server identically to the
> original.  The
> reason is that a standby database can be used as a read only copy of
> the
> original.
> 
> Dick Goulet
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> I believe as long as it is only stand-by, no additional licensing
> required.
> Only one system is "functional" at a time.
> 
> 
> Jon
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> Can someone tell me - if you have a standby database, must you carry
> a full
> Oracle license on it? Thanks.
> Dennis Williams
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