Stephane,

I don't understand what you mean when you say you can
select on t1 before any commit.

I just tried this on an 8.1.7 database, and there was
a signicant reduction in redo.  There was only 668
bytes of redo generated vs. 2320 (see below).  I think
some redo will still be generated as you allocate
extents (my tablespace is dictionary managed).

Rob Pegram
Oracle Certified DBA

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SQL> create table t as select * from dba_users;

Table created.

SQL> alter table t nologging;

Table altered.

SQL> delete from t;

15 rows deleted.

SQL> commit;

Commit complete.

SQL>  select value
   from v$mystat, v$statname
  where v$mystat.statistic# = v$statname.statistic#
    and v$statname.name = 'redo size'

     VALUE
----------
    117720

SQL> insert /*+ append */ into t as select * from
dba_users;
insert /*+ append */ into t as select * from dba_users
                            *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00926: missing VALUES keyword


SQL> insert /*+ append */ into t select * from
dba_users;

15 rows created.

SQL> commit;

Commit complete.

SQL>  select value
   from v$mystat, v$statname
  where v$mystat.statistic# = v$statname.statistic#
    and v$statname.name = 'redo size'

     VALUE
----------
    118388

SQL> delete from t;

15 rows deleted.

SQL>
SQL> commit;

Commit complete.

SQL>  select value
   from v$mystat, v$statname
  where v$mystat.statistic# = v$statname.statistic#
    and v$statname.name = 'redo size'

     VALUE
----------
    123856

SQL> insert into t select * from dba_users;

15 rows created.

SQL> commit;

Commit complete.

SQL>  select value
   from v$mystat, v$statname
  where v$mystat.statistic# = v$statname.statistic#
    and v$statname.name = 'redo size'

     VALUE
----------
    126176

--- paquette stephane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying the following insert /*+ append */ into
> t1
> as select * from t2;
> 
> t1 is created with nologging attribute.
> 
> The insert is not using the hint at all.
> I can select on t1 (before any commit) which I
> should
> not be able to do if the append hint was used.
> 
> Any ways to get the hing used ?
> (Oracle 817/NT)
> 
> TIA
> 
> =====
> Stéphane Paquette
> DBA Oracle, consultant entrepôt de données
> Oracle DBA, datawarehouse consultant
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> 
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