Well you may be right, but rman is using x$dual.
X$dual has been there since 8.1.5 (?).

Anjo.

Yechiel Adar wrote:

> Redefine the view to work on dual and pay the price !!!
> Checked it on oracle 8.1.6 and 9.0.1.
> I will take the risk that maybe in some future date this will not work
> if it can save a lot of resources now.
>
> Yechiel Adar
> Mehish
>
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>
> > what would you do if Oracle removed this x$dual or made it multiple row
> > table in future upgrades?
> >
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> >
> > Hello Gaja
> >
> > Thanks for the detailed info.
> > I created a view and did grant to public.
> > I did 10 selects and they did only 2 buffers get.
> > BTW - describe on x$dual does not work but select * works.
> >
> > Yechiel Adar
> > Mehish
> >
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> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:15 PM
> >
> >
> > > Hello Yechiel,
> > >
> > > X$DUAL is an Oracle-internal table "in the SGA" and
> > > will not be shown in an ALL_OBJECTS listing.
> > > Obviously, you need to be SYS to see this. You can do
> > > a describe as SYS and you will see it. Which is the
> > > reason why I recommended creating a view and a public
> > > synonym on the view, so that the application may
> > > reference it without any issues.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Gaja
> > >
> > > --- Yechiel Adar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hello Gaja
> > > >
> > > > I could not find x$dual. Did select on all_objects
> > > > got zip.
> > > > Oracle 8.1.6.3.4 on NT.
> > > >
> > > > Yechiel Adar
> > > > Mehish
> > > >
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> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:28 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Yechiel,
> > > > >
> > > > > Any full-table-scan in Oracle 8i (or below)
> > > > consumes 4
> > > > > LIOs to the segment header. This number has
> > > > reduced to
> > > > > 2 in 9i. Given that the 1 row that you are going
> > > > after
> > > > > is in 1 data block, there is 1 LIO for the data
> > > > block
> > > > > itself, given you a total of 5 LIOs. You can
> > > > verify
> > > > > this by setting 10046 for the session and looking
> > > > at
> > > > > the trace output.
> > > > >
> > > > > The workaround is to reference x$dual in your
> > > > > application. Alternatively, you can create a view
> > > > on
> > > > > x$dual, create a synonym for it and then go from
> > > > > there. You will incur some I/O for the first
> > > > access of
> > > > > the query (with the synonym), but subsequent
> > > > accesses
> > > > > will incur 0 LIOs against x$dual.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gaja
> > > > > --- Yechiel Adar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > I did two statspack snapshots, one hour and
> > > > forty
> > > > > > minutes apart.
> > > > > > Then I generated a report and loaded it into
> > > > > > oraperf.com.
> > > > > > In the report I saw that the two SQL statements
> > > > that
> > > > > > where executed the most
> > > > > > times where:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Select xxxx.currval from dual;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Select xxxx.nextval from dual;.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Each one was executed about 90,000 times with 5
> > > > > > buffer gets per execution.
> > > > > > The net result was about 950,000 buffer get for
> > > > > > nextval and currval.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My question is:
> > > > > > Why should there be about 5 buffer gets per
> > > > > > execution?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yechiel Adar
> > > > > > Mehish
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